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« on: April 29, 2018, 07:38:03 pm »
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Re: Advice/Help Thread
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2018, 06:19:04 pm »
Hello NCX,

I truly respect that amount of free support and help you've given the monitor community over the years. I'm a complete amateur, and your guides and information are extremely useful to me.

I've never really looked into monitors before, and looking back I've made some questionable decisions. While I have a 'gaming monitor' (let's not talk about it), I am also looking for a 27" 1440p 'productivity monitor' with a decent sRGB coverage, good contrasts, etc. (excuse my ignorance).

The main programs I will be using are: Notepad++  (for coding/scripting), Photoshop, After Effects, Premier Pro and a little bit of C4D. I will also use the monitor for watching videos and other general desktop tasks.

I have a budget below ~$500 (USD) or around 350 (GBP), and so far the S2718D has been at the top of my list. I can get the monitor for about 330 (wasn't including VAT, my mistake it's actually 400); before I buy the monitor, do you have any other recommendations or suggestions?

Thanks for the help!



« Last Edit: July 01, 2018, 06:27:33 pm by MichaelDeets »

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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2018, 07:30:16 am »
I truly respect that amount of free support and help you've given the monitor community over the years. I'm a complete amateur, and your guides and information are extremely useful to me.

Thanks! 
 
before I buy the monitor, do you have any other recommendations or suggestions?

I would not recommend the S2718H to someone who is not a big glossy-type coating fan, and does not have a decent bias lighting set-up (it is reflective and looks washed out when light shines on the display), plus more accurate matte options are available in the same price range like the AOC Q2790PQU and iiyama XUB2792QSU-B1 (best; supports 70hz which makes it a good gaming and 'image quality' monitor) which is only available in Europe.  Most of the 27" 1440p Monitor review links have not been restored yet

https://be.hardware.info/product/374615/iiyama-prolite-xub2792qsu-b1/testresultaten

https://be.hardware.info/product/416278/aoc-q2790pqu/testresultaten

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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2018, 01:41:45 am »
Hello NCX.

I am looking for a gaming monitor (of course..) currently for my ps4, but I considering buying one that will suit me for the next gen.

The problem with that is with g-sync and freesync... I can't know what will be on the next gen... what are your thoughts on that?

Anyway, what are your recommendations for a 1080p and 4k gaming monitors with a reasonable budget 400$-450$ max

The most important things to me are image quality and low input lag. the rest is bonus for me.

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2018, 04:40:00 pm »
Hello NCX.

I am looking for a gaming monitor (of course..) currently for my ps4, but I considering buying one that will suit me for the next gen.

The problem with that is with g-sync and freesync... I can't know what will be on the next gen... what are your thoughts on that?

Anyway, what are your recommendations for a 1080p and 4k gaming monitors with a reasonable budget 400$-450$ max

The most important things to me are image quality and low input lag. the rest is bonus for me.

Both Microsoft and Sony use AMD graphics cards in their consoles, and Free-Sync is much cheaper to implement, so I doubt we'll see a console with G-Sync in the future unless Sony switches to Nvidia with the PS5, but I doubt they will.  Sync tech support is also pretty limited since most games run at 30pfs, plus most Free-Sync monitors only support 40-60 or 75hz Free-Sync ranges.  Games which run in the 50-60fps range like Call of Duty will benefit, as well games with unlocked frame rates such as Monster Hunter and Shadow of the Colossus, but I doubt Sony will add Free-Sync support to the PS4 Pro.

If the 400-450$ is in US dollars get the Dell P2715Q 4K IPS panel (review links).  It can be considered delay free, is more accurate than the competing LG monitors, has a height adjustable stand, 4x USB 3.0 and often sells for less than 400$.  The next step up image quality wise is the Viewsonic XG2700-4K which has nearly perfect preset color accuracy and Free-Sync, but it sells for over 500$.

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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2018, 07:13:10 am »
Hello NCX,

Thanks for the suggestions, I ended up with the Iiyama and I've been really enjoying it!

I also returned my BenQ XL2540 as it had a horrible blueish glow from the bottom, making everything around it distorted (let alone the awful colour presets) - and to think I originally paid over $550 for this monitor, although I really rushed into buying it back in early 2017.

I play a lot of CS:GO (at high FPS, no lower than 300), so I've mainly been looking at 240Hz/1080p monitors.
That could change, and my computer is only really capable at pushing CS past 240 FPS but G-sync would help with having <240 FPS on other games/
  • The AOC AG251FG is just within my price range (goes for about 425/$560 here, after tax, shipping, etc.) and looks like a good choice according to the guide.

  • The Alienware AW2518HF is quite a bit cheaper (going for around 300/$400) but obviously doesn't have g-sync.

  • The Samsung C24FG73 is significantly cheaper (goes for about 200/$260). While it doesn't have g-sync and is 144 Hz, the colours (from being VA) and price difference does interest me.

  • There's also the XG2401 which is also significantly cheaper (goes for about 180/$240) - again, it doesn't have g-sync and is only 144 Hz.

Also have you heard about the (unreleased) MSI NXG251? Someone on Reddit claimed it will have one of the 'next generation' of 240 Hz panels, not sure if it's worth the 3-6 month wait...

Last thing, my old PayPal was locked around 4-5 years ago (due to me being underage at the time) and I can't get it unlocked so I made a new one.

I went to donate, but it keeps saying my 'session has expired' (I've tried a different browser, incognito, different system with a different IP, etc.).

Thanks again!

EDIT:

I ended up getting the Samsung (based on your recommendations in the /r/monitors subreddit). I bearly notice the 240-144 Hz transition and the colours (at least to me) seem pretty good!

I would still like to donate if you have a suitable email / donate link.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2018, 10:40:07 am by MichaelDeets »

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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2018, 05:38:13 pm »
Hello NCX,

Thanks for the suggestions, I ended up with the Iiyama and I've been really enjoying it!

I also returned my BenQ XL2540 as it had a horrible blueish glow from the bottom, making everything around it distorted (let alone the awful colour presets) - and to think I originally paid over $550 for this monitor, although I really rushed into buying it back in early 2017.

I play a lot of CS:GO (at high FPS, no lower than 300), so I've mainly been looking at 240Hz/1080p monitors.
That could change, and my computer is only really capable at pushing CS past 240 FPS but G-sync would help with having <240 FPS on other games/
  • The AOC AG251FG is just within my price range (goes for about 425/$560 here, after tax, shipping, etc.) and looks like a good choice according to the guide.

  • The Alienware AW2518HF is quite a bit cheaper (going for around 300/$400) but obviously doesn't have g-sync.

  • The Samsung C24FG73 is significantly cheaper (goes for about 200/$260). While it doesn't have g-sync and is 144 Hz, the colours (from being VA) and price difference does interest me.

  • There's also the XG2401 which is also significantly cheaper (goes for about 180/$240) - again, it doesn't have g-sync and is only 144 Hz.

Also have you heard about the (unreleased) MSI NXG251? Someone on Reddit claimed it will have one of the 'next generation' of 240 Hz panels, not sure if it's worth the 3-6 month wait...

Last thing, my old PayPal was locked around 4-5 years ago (due to me being underage at the time) and I can't get it unlocked so I made a new one.

I went to donate, but it keeps saying my 'session has expired' (I've tried a different browser, incognito, different system with a different IP, etc.).

Thanks again!

EDIT:

I ended up getting the Samsung (based on your recommendations in the /r/monitors subreddit). I bearly notice the 240-144 Hz transition and the colours (at least to me) seem pretty good!

I would still like to donate if you have a suitable email / donate link.


I was going to suggest the Samsung C24FG73 (better image quality but more overshoot) or Viewsonic XG2401 since the 240hz TN panels all have bad image quality, even if accurate since they have small color gamuts only capable of covering up to 89-93% (Absolute, not native coverage) of the SRGB & REC 709 color space.  The AOC AG251G seems like it's the best of the 240hz panels, but it's still worse than the best 144hz TN panels, only one has been tested (by PC Monitors), and the 240hz AUO panels contrast and preset accuracy varies significantly between the same units.

My paypal email is thedeepinthesky@yahoo.com

What's the build date on your Samsung (check the back sticker)?  Some people still report getting units made in 2017 without the new firmware and obvious green and purple overshoot ghosting.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2018, 05:42:07 pm by NCX »

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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2018, 06:17:35 pm »
I was going to suggest the Samsung C24FG73 (better image quality but more overshoot) or Viewsonic XG2401 since the 240hz TN panels all have bad image quality, even if accurate since they have small color gamuts only capable of covering up to 89-93% (Absolute, not native coverage) of the SRGB & REC 709 color space.  The AOC AG251G seems like it's the best of the 240hz panels, but it's still worse than the best 144hz TN panels, only one has been tested (by PC Monitors), and the 240hz AUO panels contrast and preset accuracy varies significantly between the same units.

My paypal email is thedeepinthesky@yahoo.com

What's the build date on your Samsung (check the back sticker)?  Some people still report getting units made in 2017 without the new firmware and obvious green and purple overshoot ghosting.

April 2018. I just noticed a slight purple artefact when I was browsing Reddit (night mode), it was extremely subtle and I haven't seen it anywhere else.

I went to this exact place (shown in this YouTube video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoqGHAK-U3U

and I couldn't notice anything whatsoever.

There's a very slight green tint on the left half of the screen and a slight red tint on the right half, I might end up returning it and exchanging it for a new one.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2018, 06:24:26 am by MichaelDeets »

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2018, 06:48:26 pm »
Hello NCX,

I am looking at a few monitors right now for a new setup at college with a new laptop. My current primary monitors at home are BenQ RL2455 1080p TN panels. As I do not game professionally, really, and will be staring at the monitor for years, I want the new monitor to be IPS. I was linked to this forum by someone on Reddit and have spent the past few days looking at manufacturers and different monitors for sale. I really want to buy something nice that will last a while, as my current BenQ monitors were supposed to be good (from my limited research at the time) but really haven't been, as the settings and colors change often enough randomly, forcing me to go into the OSD and toggle the correct preset back on. (An entry-level Dell 1366x768 secondary monitor that was gifted to me has an objectively worse TN panel but has remained trouble-free over the years.)

My goal is to get one matte 23.8" to 25" IPS monitor with as good color quality as possible while spending around $200 (USD). The budget can be slightly upgraded if necessary, and the monitor can be used or refurbished if necessary also. The monitor should be 1080p, mainly for the sake of future expansion with a fast TN 1080p panel if I want to play games at a higher refresh rate without spending a fortune.

In my research, Dell (#1) and Asus (#2) seem to have the best service, warranties, and pixel policies (on certain models) that I have found. I'd rather stick with them when possible unless some other monitor is just too good to ignore. See my note about BenQ above.

Here are the monitors that I am looking at, loosely ranked:
#1. Dell UltraSharp U2417H. Dell seems to have the best warranty, service, and pixel policy overall. Additionally, the stand and image quality (reported in your 24"-25" post) seem to be great and on par with the Eizo and iiyama, which are either super expensive or not available here (USA). The UltraSharp just seems like a premium product overall when compared to the monitors below.
#1a. (This has been edited in after the initial post.) You mentioned in a Reddit comment that the iiyama XUB2492HSU-B1 is a superior U2417H clone. I searched through more of your comment history after that just to try to get some more insight on my situation, but can you please explain why this monitor is better than the Dell UltraSharp? I found a price on Amazon.de that is cheaper than the Dell even with international shipping factored in.
#2. Asus VP249H. This one is black and has flicker-free and a VESA mount. I don't think it's as good as the UltraSharp, though.
#3. Asus VZ249H. This is silver (which I don't like as much) and has flicker-free but no VESA mount. I'm not sure how this differs from the VP249H.
#4. Asus MX259H. This one is tempting due to its 25" size which you've claimed makes for a good panel. Additionally, the 25" size is "better" for this type of bezel-less panel in my opinion as it makes the screen itself appear smaller. (That's just from my observations between my home BenQ monitors and a bezel-less ViewSonic at work.) This seems comparable to the Acer G257HL (which you mentioned as being cheaper than the Asus, which doesn't seem to be the case anymore, so I'd rather the Asus) and the Philips 257E7QDSB (which seems good, but I'm hesitant about since Philips don't seem to sell that many monitors here at all).
#5. Asus VN248H/VN248Q. (I think these are the same except for the ports on them.) Apparently these are not flicker-free and should be eliminated. Can you confirm?

The AOC, Eizo, iiyama, 246-model Philips, and LG mentioned in your "best matte monitor" section don't seem to be available here in the US.

I can pick up the Dell UltraSharp new at $230 and possibly "used" (open box) at $200. The VP249H, however, is $135; the VZ249H is $155; and the MX259H is $175. Discounting the VN248-series Asus, are there any compelling reasons to spend more money on the Dell? Is it truly better than the other Asus choices in terms of build and/or color accuracy? My main goal is to have this monitor "forever" basically until it dies, so I'd like to get one of the best monitors out there with my desired specifications even if it costs more.

Lastly, I think I've checked all of the ones you've said are best in the 24"-25" post, but if there are any other better options available in the US that I am missing, please let me know.

Thank you for all the reviews and comments you've done both on here and on Reddit!

Bunsen
« Last Edit: July 29, 2018, 08:36:26 pm by Bunsen »

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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2018, 11:34:29 pm »
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1.) I couldn't notice anything whatsoever.

2.) There's a very slight green tint on the left half of the screen and a slight red tint on the right half, I might end up returning it and exchanging it for a new one.

(1) I'm glad you like it, especially after switching from a 240hz panel.   (2) Perhaps buy a second unit and return whichever is worse  since there's always the possibility of getting a worse replacement. 
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2018, 12:31:10 am »
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You mentioned in a Reddit comment that the iiyama XUB2492HSU-B1 is a superior U2417H clone. I searched through more of your comment history after that just to try to get some more insight on my situation, but can you please explain why this monitor is better than the Dell UltraSharp?

The iiyama is basically the same monitor which sells for less, and is equipped with multiple useful overdrive settings while the Dell only has 1 useful setting which suffers from a bit overshoot.  I won't recommend it though since imports can't be easily returned and exchanged, the warranty might not be honored, and because return shipping is expensive.   

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#4. Asus MX259H

I see no point in paying 25$ more for the Asus of the Philips unless you really like the design of the Asus. 

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#5. Asus VN248H/VN248Q. (I think these are the same except for the ports on them.) Apparently these are not flicker-free and should be eliminated. Can you confirm?

No.  The only information is for the original panel with PWM tested back in 2013, and there are multiple tested options to choose from.

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I can pick up the Dell UltraSharp new at $230 and possibly "used" (open box) at $200. The VP249H, however, is $135; the VZ249H is $155; and the MX259H is $175. Discounting the VN248-series Asus, are there any compelling reasons to spend more money on the Dell? Is it truly better than the other Asus choices in terms of build and/or color accuracy? My main goal is to have this monitor "forever" basically until it dies, so I'd like to get one of the best monitors out there with my desired specifications even if it costs more.

Buying a refurbished monitor with a 90 day warranty is not a good idea if longevity is a concern, and the U2417H costs more than the rest because it comes with a height adjustable stand (50$+ expense), USB ports and their superior warranty versus all competitors in the low-end monitor arena.  Theoretically (if it's as good as the cheaper Philips 257E7QDSB) the MX259H offers slightly better image quality than the 24" 1080p panels since the 25" panels are 8 bit and can more fully cover the sRGB color space.  I don't think the height adjustable stand the Dell comes with is tall enough to be useful since the top of AHVA/IPS/PLS needs to line up with the top of the viewers head to eliminate off angle vertical glow (more information).
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2018, 02:35:19 am »
Hello! It's me again (The one that reported the vertical lines on the HP)

Was wondering what settings you'd recommend for HCFR? I think I've got it mostly set up, but just wanted some extra advice and to know how you set it up if you don't mind. Got my hands on an i1 Pro 2 for a bit (For free obviously, ain't paying over $1000 :P )

I also got a ViewSonic XG2402 (2401 isn't available anywhere at the time, and doesn't seem like it's going to change), and have been measuring that.

I would like to add to the confirmed 1000:1 contrast readings, I think it may be safe to recommend it, assuming this is mostly accurate.

Grayscale/gamma:

https://imgur.com/OfhTmKx

RGB levels:

https://imgur.com/WT5CDbh


How does all this look? Here's my HP Envy 24 for comparison:

Grayscale/gamma:

https://imgur.com/nckxddV

RGB levels:

https://imgur.com/Jwoqwxi

I know that this isn't all that much of a question/help post, but I didn't know where else to put this, would love a general discussion section! (Or maybe I'm blind and there is one, who knows)

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2018, 10:06:09 am »
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1.) I couldn't notice anything whatsoever.

2.) There's a very slight green tint on the left half of the screen and a slight red tint on the right half, I might end up returning it and exchanging it for a new one.

(1) I'm glad you like it, especially after switching from a 240hz panel.   (2) Perhaps buy a second unit and return whichever is worse  since there's always the possibility of getting a worse replacement.

Good idea, but I'm just going to get a refund. They don't stock the models in store (click and collect only), and returning them is harder than I thought (10 mile drive to the nearest store, as the local store shut down).

The colours were amazing, but I don't really need them and I had some issues with crosshairs especially on low resolutions (1024x768) but even on native (as silly as that 'issue' sounds). In reality I only play CS:GO, Civ 5 and maybe the odd MMO (two of which I can play on my Iiyama just fine). I went ahead with buying the XG2401 (out-of-stock, probably wont dispatch for a week or more) as I heard that LG's strobing isn't that good anyway (not to mention it being about $50 more), and I can always go back to the C24FG73 as I found another store which stocks it (much closer). Wish me luck back into TN hell, although anything's an upgrade over my XL2540.

Cheers for all the help and advice. I would have either kept my XL2540 (which I hated) or ended up with something much worse otherwise.

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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2018, 11:49:36 pm »
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Hello! It's me again (The one that reported the vertical lines on the HP)

I remember, credited and showed your post from 2017 in my HP 24 Envy video review.

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Was wondering what settings you'd recommend for HCFR?

The version (3.5.1.4) you have is set up correctly by default.

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I would like to add to the confirmed 1000:1 contrast readings, I think it may be safe to recommend it, assuming this is mostly accurate.


Grayscale/gamma:

https://imgur.com/OfhTmKx

RGB levels:

https://imgur.com/WT5CDbh


How does all this look?

Excellent aside from the gamma which is too low (turn the Black Stabilization setting down and re-measure), even for an sRB type curve.  Your unit is much better than mine which is far more blue and has a significantly skewed gamma curve (I'll add screen shots later).

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Here's my HP Envy 24 for comparison:

Grayscale/gamma:

https://imgur.com/nckxddV

RGB levels:

https://imgur.com/Jwoqwxi

Your Envy is also better than mine, though only slightly, and it could be colorimeter differences instead of panel accuracy lottery.  The gamma should ideally be linear 2.2 from 0-100% white

24 Envy RGB and 24 Envy Gamma

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I know that this isn't all that much of a question/help post, but I didn't know where else to put this, would love a general discussion section! (Or maybe I'm blind and there is one, who knows)

Good idea.

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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2018, 12:59:57 am »

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Was wondering what settings you'd recommend for HCFR?

The version (3.5.1.4) you have is set up correctly by default.


Yeah, I thought so too at first, but then I noticed it was using 16-235 for the test images by default, I'm pretty sure that was wrong, and was giving me incorrect contrast readings too, so I had to switch that. Also, the default "color space/standard:" setting in "references" was I believe at HDTV REC709, but that wasn't giving that gray reference curve. Changed that to sRGB for the reference curve, should I be using the default there instead?

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Excellent aside from the gamma which is too low (turn the Black Stabilization setting down and re-measure), even for an sRB type curve.

Currently I'm at the 2.2 gamma setting, I'm assuming raising that would be too much? Will try turning the black stabilizer down a bit.

Knocked it down to 9, how's this? https://imgur.com/657zUEz

Here's one of my earlier readings at 10 that I forgot to show: https://imgur.com/ufdJz9Q

My latest reading at 10 (Also lowered brightness by 1): https://imgur.com/85lTeDc

Contrast readings seem to vary a bit (Getting a lot of 800-900:1 readings, but then sometimes 1100:1, despite not changing anything) I know that the i1 Pro 2 may not be the best at this, just seems odd that the readings vary sometimes, even for the same OSD settings. Would it be fine to just trust the ones around 1000-1100:1? (I got a couple of 700:1 readings at one point for some reason, but those seemed to have stopped for now)

Edit: Which is the better of these? Black stabilizer seems to hurt certain colors, but makes others better.

Black Stabilizer 11:
https://imgur.com/N7cywPt (Grayscale)
https://imgur.com/MOPYvj5 (RGB Levels)

Black Stabilizer 10:
https://imgur.com/RJkrcN3 (Grayscale)
https://imgur.com/qGC3rzS (RGB Levels)

Black Stabilizer 9:
https://imgur.com/N7cywPt (Grayscale)
https://imgur.com/HPbpLze (RGB Levels)

Black Stabilizer 8:
https://imgur.com/uSklDsD (Grayscale)
https://imgur.com/QYnWfyC (RGB Levels)

Wish I knew why the contrast readings vary (Sometimes the gamma too, but less often), not really sure what to trust. I guess I'll just have to assume it's around 1000:1. Was odd that yesterday I was getting a bunch of 1000-1200:1 readings, but not today, despite the same lighting conditions too (In the dark)
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