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« Reply #135 on: November 04, 2019, 07:17:40 am »
I am in doubt among these monitors. Which would you choose in relation to price quality?

The 27UK650 is the best in terms of pricing, image quality and performance, but the Philips 276E8VJSB (review links) is better (more accurate and one of the most accurate monitors under 1000) and usually cheaper. 

If after a VA panel the BenQ (review links) is better than the Philips (it under-saturates color when set to the sRGB mode) while there are no reviews of the LG 32UL750.  The Philips has superior HDR color performance versus the BenQ, while the BenQ is better for non-HDR content, which is most content. None of the sub 800 27" 4K monitors properly support HDR, so if HDR color is a priority VA is the way to go.

AHVA/IPS/PLS versus VA comes down to personal preference; I vastly prefer AHVA/IPS/PLS's lack of horizontal gamma shift and slightly faster pixel response times versus VA panels higher contrast and HDR color support in the budget arena. AHVA/IPS/PLS versus VA image quality comparisons

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« Reply #136 on: November 04, 2019, 10:06:42 am »
Thanks for your reply.

If I have not misunderstood, with the IPS panel the best is the 27UK650, even better than the 27UL650?

As I understand Philips does not have FreeSync  276E8VJSB

If the panel is VA then the best would be the EW3270U

is that so?

What about the LG 32uk550? nothing is said and is very well priced for the features that it has, right?

I would like the monitor to be HDR.
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« Reply #137 on: November 06, 2019, 03:47:42 am »
It's good to see the AD27QD still getting FW updates, the latest being FW09 yesterday.

It's a shame the reviewers will never go back and revisit the changes.

For the average user, we have no idea if things are better or worse!

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« Reply #138 on: November 06, 2019, 08:02:25 am »
with the IPS panel the best is the 27UK650, even better than the 27UL650?

They're basically the same monitor, as is the UL550, but the 550 had a perceived black depth increasing matte grey bezel versus the 650 and 850's perceived black depth decreasing inner black or fake frame-less casing's bezel.

The tested monitors are all ranked in the Best Monitor sections of my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 4-5K AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guide.

As I understand Philips does not have FreeSync  276E8VJSB

Correct, and the PS4 Pro does not support Free-Sync.  If you really want Free-Sync the ViewSonic XG2700-4K supports it, is very accurate and has a perceived black depth increasing grey bezel.  It uses an older panel (my VP2780-3K uses the same panel which I compared to the UL550) with a bit more glow than the UL550, but you probably will not notice unless your room lighting is very dim.

If the panel is VA then the best would be the EW3270U
 

Best for non-HDR content.  If some over-saturation is not a bother the Philips is better since it has back-light dimming and superior HDR color.

What about the LG 32uk550? nothing is said and is very well priced for the features that it has, right?

Untested. 

I would like the monitor to be HDR.

Nearly full HDR support from monitors costs >1500.  In this price range the HDR support offered by monitors is <30% and I would choose the Philips 276E8VJSB over every 4K monitor under 1000$ aside from the BenQ PD3200U and ViewSonic XG2700-4K.
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« Reply #139 on: November 08, 2019, 03:00:30 am »
Hello NCX,

I truly respect that amount of free support and help you've given the monitor community over the years.

I am looking for 144 Hz 1 ms 24" gaming monitor. I only have 2 options because of the discount in my country. First option is AOC 24G2U and the second is Viewsonic vx2458-mhd. The thing is i really don't know if there is a real input lag difference between these two(respect to IPS and TN panel) or not.If there is no such a difference between them, isn't it better to choose AOC 24G2U over Viewsonic vx2458-mhd because of the quality advantages of IPS panel?

What would you suggest for me?

Thank you.

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« Reply #140 on: November 09, 2019, 12:40:31 pm »
I really don't know if there is a real input lag difference between these two

Most monitors have so-low-it's negligible amounts of input lag (<5ms) these days, including the AOC and ViewSonic.  The main difference between AHVA/IPS/PLS and TN panels is the pixel response time difference (amount of ghosting; TN are faster) and image quality.  If set at the correct height the AOC offers vastly superior image quality to the ViewSonic, and the AOC's pixel response times are fast enough to satisfy the vast majority of players.  Compare the AOC to the ViewSonic XG240R which has nearly identical pixel response time performance with the VX2458:


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« Reply #141 on: November 09, 2019, 09:33:44 pm »
Hi NCX,

Very good work.

Please, I need an advice.
We dont have many options for monitors in my country nowaday.
I was looking for a 1440p 144hz game monitor. IPS very expensive for me. A VN Dell S2719DGF i can find here.

It is possible to say, in my case, if is better get a Dell S2719DGF or a good 1080p 144hz IPS/VA panel? (found the VA Samsung C24FG73,  C27FG73 and MSI Optix G27C2, and IPS Aoc 24g2 Gaming).

Thanks.


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« Reply #142 on: November 10, 2019, 04:04:32 pm »
a good 1080p 144hz IPS/VA panel? (found the VA Samsung C24FG73,  C27FG73 and MSI Optix G27C2, and IPS Aoc 24g2 Gaming).

Always good IPS or VA over TN, especially since the Dell S2719DGF is worse than some of the best 144hz 1080p TN panels since the Dell may come with very washed out colors and lacks gamma controls which can improve it.

I recommend the AOC 24G2 over 144hz VA panels.  Make sure to read and/or watch my guides about display height, display brightness and room lighting.

IPS vs TN: Right & Wrong Ways To Use Or View; How To Vastly Reduce AHVA/IPS/PLS Glow & Vastly Increase The Perceived Black Depth

Display Brightness & Room Lighting: The Importance Of Light


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« Reply #143 on: November 12, 2019, 02:07:50 am »
I recommend the AOC 24G2
Do you know how long is the base? Those protruding "spikes" could be a problem as a sideway display (my XB241H has those things too).

Also, on Amazon in my country that monitor is 200, do you think I could wait for some more discount? (it was added only 2 months ago)

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« Reply #144 on: November 13, 2019, 07:09:08 pm »
Do you know how long is the base? Those protruding "spikes" could be a problem as a sideway display (my XB241H has those things too).

Also, on Amazon in my country that monitor is 200, do you think I could wait for some more discount? (it was added only 2 months ago)

No and don't know, but doubt it will go on sale since it's already competitively priced against 60-75hz IPS.