General Category => Monitor Reviews by NCX => Topic started by: NCX on October 23, 2018, 10:07:55 pm
Title: Samsung 43NU7100 & Sony 43X750F Review x2: Semi-Glossy 4K VA & IPS
Post by: NCX on October 23, 2018, 10:07:55 pm
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Samsung 55NU7100 Review by Rtings (https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/nu7100) Sony 55X750F Review by Rtings (https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x750f) Best TV Review Sites; TV Review Resource Center (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-advice-by-ncx/best-tv-review-sites/)
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Title: Enter The Meatball
Post by: NCX on October 24, 2018, 02:57:14 am
Table Of Content (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1920/43715118930_2916e05ef2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29AXpR5) DSC_0149 (https://flic.kr/p/29AXpR5) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
Samsung Features & Stand (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/) Sony Features & Stand (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg472/#msg472) Samsung Menu & Set-Up (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg473/#msg473) Sony Menu & Set-Up (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg474/#msg474) Samsung Flicker/PWM Dimming (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg475/#msg475) Sony Flicker/PWM Dimming (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg478/#msg478) Samsung Brightness & Contrast (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg479/#msg479) Sony Brightness & Contrast (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg480/#msg480) Samsung Semi-Glossy Coating (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg481/#msg481) Sony Semi-Glossy Coating (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg482/#msg482) Samsung Ghosting/Overdrive (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg483/#msg483) Sony Ghosting/Overdrive (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg484/#msg484) Samsung Input Lag (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg485/#msg485) Sony Input Lag (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg486/#msg486) Samsung Preset Color Accuracy (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg487/#msg487) Sony Preset Color Accuracy (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg488/#msg488) Samsung Un-Calibrated vs Calibrated Comparisons (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg506/#msg506) Sony Un-Calibrated vs Calibrated Comparisons (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg507/#msg507) Calibrated Image Quality (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg523/#msg523) Samsung Settings (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg524/#msg524) Sony Settings (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg525/#msg525) Samsung Perceived Black Depth (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg526/#msg526) Sony Perceived Black Depth (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg527/#msg527) Back-Light Bleed (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg528/#msg528) Samsung VA Glow (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg529/#msg529) Sony IPS Glow (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg530/#msg530) Samsung Viewing Angles (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg531/#msg531) Sony Viewing Angles (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg532/#msg532) Samsung + Playstation 3 & 4 & Pro (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg533/#msg533) Sony + Playstation 3 & 4 & Pro (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg534/#msg534) Samsung + Xbox 360 & Xbox One (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg535/#msg535) Sony + Xbox 360 & Xbox One (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg536/#msg536) Samsung 43NU7100 Conclusion (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg537/#msg537) Sony 43X750F Conclusion (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg538/#msg538)
Title: Statues Not Included
Post by: NCX on October 24, 2018, 02:57:35 am
Samsung Features & Stand (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4909/46150227302_0bece6bb2d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dj8YJb) DSC_0210 (https://flic.kr/p/2dj8YJb) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The 43NU7100 has a high quality and non-flimsy dark matte grey casing, a sturdy silver metallic stand (two feet which must be manually attached), 3x HDMI 2.0 ports with full 3840x2160 @ 60hz + YCbCr 4:4:4 support. The Samsung also has an Ethernet port, 3x USB and 2x 10w speakers. Samsung claims the 43NU7100 supports HDR, but there's no option to manually enabled it and neither my PC or PS4 Pro detected it has HDR capable, and it does not use a wide gamut panel with high brightness required for HDR.
Title: Pool Not Included
Post by: NCX on October 24, 2018, 02:58:17 am
Sony Features & Stand (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1913/45532468141_2ca4722b4b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cnxNsa) DSC_0074 (https://flic.kr/p/2cnxNsa) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
Official Features & Specifications Page (https://www.sony.ca/en/electronics/televisions/x750f-series/specifications)
The 43X750F has a high quality and non-flimsy dark matte grey casing, a sturdy silver metallic stand (two legs), 4x HDCP 2.3 HDMI ports with 3840x2160 @ 60hz + YCbCr 4:2:2 support. The Sony also has component video, an Ethernet port, 3x USB and 2x 10w speakers. Sony claims the 43X750F supports HDR, but there's no option to manually enabled it and neither my PC or PS4 Pro detected it has HDR capable, and it does not use a wide gamut panel with high brightness required for HDR.
Title: Bad Framing of Frames
Post by: NCX on October 24, 2018, 03:04:11 am
Samsung Menu & Set-Up (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/46200827221_858072572a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2doBjjz) DSC_0228 (https://flic.kr/p/2doBjjz) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
Only the most important menu photos will be posted here.
Unlike the Sony which costs significantly more, the Samsung can not automatically detect the source and decide which Picture mode to switch to, nor can it be easily set to the Game mode which vastly reduces the input lag to a nearly negligible amount of 8ms versus the lowest 2-3ms top screen Leo Bodnar device measurements:
The Game Mode must be manually enabled in the External Device Manager menu, as does full resolution 3840x2160 and YCbCr 4:4:4 chroma sub-sampling support which must be turned on in the HDMI UHD Color sub-menu. Once this is activated the RGB Full and YCbCr 4:4:4 option show up in the Nvidia control panel while only YCbCr 2:2:2 was available before activating UHD Color. The maximum brightness and color accuracy vastly improved once the HDMI UHD Color setting was enabled, for measurements and more information refer to the Samsung Preset Color Accuracy (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg487/#msg48l) section of the review.
Once the input lag reduced Game Mode setting is activated in the External Device Manager menu, travel back up to the Picture Menu. When connected to my PS4 Pro and Xbox One S the Picture Mode menu was not greyed out, but was when connected to my PC. This isn't an issue since the other modes are useless aside from the Standard mode which allows one to use the mediocre motion compensation feature.
Click on Expert Settings to access the back-light controls and color adjustments. The settings shown below are my calibrated settings:
Scroll down to access even more settings including the extremely importent Warm2 Color Tone setting which is preset to Cool which causes the Samsung to suffer from a strong blue tint. Once Warm2 is selected the color accuracy increases significantly. The BT.1886 setting either decreases (-) or increases (+) the gamma.
The White Balance menu contains the RGB Gain and Offset settings while the 20 Point setting contains even more, but are not accessible when the Game Mode is selected.
Here are my calibrated RGB Gain and Off-Set settings which I don't advise using since the Samsung is accurate enough once the Warm2 Color Tone setting is selecting.
Title: Adaptable Like A Hardlight
Post by: NCX on October 24, 2018, 03:05:27 am
Sony Menu & Set-Up (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1975/31660012618_c8e808f04e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QeFQJw) DSC_0130 (https://flic.kr/p/QeFQJw) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
Only the most important menu photos will be posted here; click on the Sony 43X750F Menu Album (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/albums/72157702603591084) linked to see photos of every 43X750F menu.
The Auto picture mode setting was preset to On, which automatically set the Sony to the Graphics mode when I connected it to my PC. The Custom, Game (reduced lag) and Graphics (reduced lag) Picture modes (color presets) are the most accurate, nearly identical, and allow access to the all of the important settings. Aside from turning off the Auto picture mode and using the Game or Graphics mode and turning off the Adv. contrast enhancer shown below, there's no need to change any other settings.
The Adv. contrast enhancer is turned on by default and causes detail loss, so it's best to turn it off.
The Color menu contains the Adv. color temperature sub-menu which when selected leads to the color controls which includes, Red, Gren and Blue Gain, Off-Set and 10 Point Gamma controls.
RGB Gain settings in the Adv. color temperature sub-menu:
RGB Bias and 10 point Color gamma adjustment point settings:
Here are my Gain and Off-Set settings:
Title: Re: Sony 43X750F Review: Semi-Glossy 4K IPS TV
Post by: NCX on October 24, 2018, 03:28:30 am
Samsung Flicker/PWM Dimming (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4917/31258678627_6f6b6a021f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PCdU7X) Samsung 43NU7100 50 Back Light vs 30 (https://flic.kr/p/PCdU7X) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The Samsung uses low frequency LED PWM Dimming (read about the side effects (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/pulse_width_modulation.htm#side_effects)), when the back-light is set to 49/50 or lower. LED PWM Dimming is tested for using the Blur Busters Test UFO Blur Trail/PWM Test (https://testufo.com/blurtrail) from 0-100% Brightness, and used this testing method developed by TFT Central (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/pulse_width_modulation.htm#testing). The two pictures above are of the 50/50 back-light photo and 30/50.
PWM or Flicker ruins motion clarity (example (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/16320517710/)), and can cause some people to suffer from health issues such as headaches, and/or eyestrain.
Title: Unwavering Light
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:14:21 am
Sony Flicker/PWM Dimming (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1951/45481835202_9b61c04173_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ci5i3s) DSC_0128 (https://flic.kr/p/2ci5i3s) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The Sony 43X750F does not use LED PWM Dimming (read about the side effects (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/pulse_width_modulation.htm#side_effects)), regardless of high or low the brightness is set. LED PWM Dimming is tested for using the Blur Busters Test UFO Blur Trail/PWM Test (https://testufo.com/blurtrail) from 0-100% Brightness. The lack of PWM is good since PWM or Flicker ruins motion clarity (example (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/16320517710/)), and can cause some people to suffer from health issues such as headaches, and/or eyestrain.
Title: A Non-Skating Titan
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:14:42 am
Samsung Brightness & Contrast (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4875/45285529495_7344849270_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bZJbci) Samsung 43NU7100 B & C (https://flic.kr/p/2bZJbci) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The 43NU7100's brightness ranges from 13.06-306.61cdm/2, and the contrast averages around 4080:1 which is significantly above average for a VA panel which usually have around 3,000:1 contrast. The Samsung is barely acceptable for bright room use, and outstanding for dark room use since it can get very dim, and has very high contrast if accounting for VA panels used in monitors and TV's.
Neither the Samsung nor Sony are suitable for brightly lit rooms since they use very reflective semi-glossy coatings and can't get bright enough, but the Samsung is more suitable for dark and light-less rooms since it can get more than six times as dim, and has vastly higher contrast.
Title: Non-Blinding Light
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:15:00 am
Sony Brightness & Contrast (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1963/30591497527_606863f3fe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBgqqx) DSC_0053 (https://flic.kr/p/NBgqqx) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4818/44067686010_bb348fddd0_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/2a97pKQ) Sony 43X750F B & C (https://flic.kr/p/2a97pKQ) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The 43X750F's brightness ranges from 83.65-272.23cdm/2, and the contrast averages around 935:1 which is barely above average. The Sony is too dim for bright room use, and barely acceptable for light-less room use since it can only dim down to 84cdm/2. These results are disappointing when considering the fact that the 43X750F is one of the most expensive and highest end 43" TV's around, especially since IPS/PLS are capable of outputting 350cdm/2 with 1300:1 contrast.
Title: Re: Sony 43X750F Review: Semi-Glossy 4K IPS TV
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:15:21 am
Samsung Semi-Glossy Coating (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4917/45475955814_1af4163cff_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2chyaiG) Samsung 43UN7100 30/50BL The Order 1886 (https://flic.kr/p/2chyaiG) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
Almost all televisions use a form of semi-glossy coating, which is the worst type of non-matte coating since semi-glossy coatings make black looked greyish, and displays look washed out under bright lighting. Some semi-glossy coatings are worse than others, and the 43NU7100's coating is one of the least desirable types of semi-glossy coatings, especially since the panel is not very bright, though it is slightly brighter than the Sony. The first photo is of the 43NU7100 with my ceiling light turned on, and with 140cdm/2 display brightness. Here it is with the ceiling light on and maximum brightness of 306cdm/2:
Photo of the Samsung with my bias lights (3x LIFX BR30's set to 4000k and maximum brightness) and 140cdm/2 display brightness (30/50 Back-light setting) versus the ceiling light:
Bias lighting (lights placed behind a display) is highly recommended since the 43NU7100 is not very bright, and because its semi-glossy coating makes it look washed out under bright lighting.
Title: Re: Sony 43X750F Review: Semi-Glossy 4K IPS TV
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:15:51 am
Sony Semi-Glossy Coating (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1921/31659934488_81469ab09c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QeFrvs) DSC_0031 (https://flic.kr/p/QeFrvs) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
Almost all televisions use a form of semi-glossy coating, which is the worst type of non-matte coating since semi-glossy coatings make black looked greyish, and displays look washed out under bright lighting. Some semi-glossy coatings are worse than others, and the 43X750F's coating is one of the least desirable types of semi-glossy coatings, especially since this panel is not very bright. The first photo is of the 43X750F with my ceiling light turned on, and with 140cdm/2 display brightness. Here it is with the ceiling light on and maximum brightness of 272cdm/2:
Photo of the Sony with my bias lights (3x LIFX BR30's set to 4000k and maximum brightness) and 140cdm/2 display brightness (17/50 menu brightness) versus the ceiling light:
Bias lighting (lights placed behind a display) is highly recommended since the 43X750F is not very bright, and because its semi-glossy coating makes it look washed out under bright lighting.
Title: Pixel Response Time Speed: Elephant
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:16:12 am
Samsung Ghosting/Overdrive (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4880/32328699808_98da03cf68_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RfM391) DSC_0230 (https://flic.kr/p/RfM391) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The following are non-pursuit photo compilations of the Test UFO Ghosting test (https://testufo.com/ghosting#background=004040&separation=160&pps=960&graphics=bbufo.png&pursuit=0) with each monitors back-light or brightness setting set to the maximum. The AOC and Sony are completely PWM/Flicker Free while the Samsung uses low frequency PWM when the back-light setting is set to 49/50 and lower. LED PWM Dimming or flicker reduces motion clarity and makes content in smooth camera pans appear to judder and blur significantly more than PWM/Flicker free displays like the AOC and Sony.
Cyan Pixel Response Comparison
In this comparison the Sony is the fastest except in the top UFO which shows a bit more ghosting than the AOC, which along with the Sony has vastly faster pixel response times than the Samsung which along with the others is overshoot ghosting free, but has very slow pixel response times resulting in very obvious color streaking and smearing of black, brown and grey shades, even when watching media. I witnessed some obvious smearing when watching The Bodygaurd and Frankenstein Chronicles on Netflix, both of which are shows with many black, brown and grey colors and shades since both contain many scenes with people in dark suits, and brown oak furniture. Even when the back-light is set to maximum to prevent PWM blur, the Samsung offers very poor overdrive performance since it has very slow pixel response times, especially compared to VA panels in 32" 4K VA panels like the BenQ EW3270 (review links (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/general-discussion/best-32'-4k-3840x2160-ahvaipspls-panels/msg49/#msg49)) and similarly priced LG 32UD59 (review links (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/general-discussion/best-32'-4k-3840x2160-ahvaipspls-panels/msg55/#msg55)), which are both PWM/Flicker Free. Rtings tested both the LG 32UD59 (https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/32ud59-b#comparison_1425) and the 55" version of the NU7100 (https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/nu7100#comparison_1774), here are the pursuit camera photographs of their own custom ghosting test which is based on, and uses the photographic methodology created by Blur Busters.
Title: Torch The Competition
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:16:26 am
Sony Ghosting/Overdrive (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1958/30591539617_550a184358_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBgCWe) DSC_0073 (https://flic.kr/p/NBgCWe) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The following are non-pursuit photo compilations of the Test UFO Ghosting test (https://testufo.com/ghosting#background=004040&separation=160&pps=960&graphics=bbufo.png&pursuit=0) with each monitors back-light or brightness setting set to the maximum. The AOC and Sony are completely PWM/Flicker Free while the Samsung uses low frequency PWM when the back-light setting is set to 49/50 and lower. LED PWM Dimming or flicker reduces motion clarity and makes content in smooth camera pans appear to judder and blur significantly more than PWM/Flicker free displays like the AOC and Sony.
Cyan Pixel Response Comparison
In this comparison the Sony is the fastest except in the top UFO which shows a bit more ghosting than the AOC, which along with the Sony has vastly faster pixel response times than the Samsung which along with the others is overshoot ghosting free, but has very slow pixel response times resulting in very obvious color streaking and smearing of black, brown and grey shades. Even when the back-light is set to maximum to prevent PWM blur, the Samsung offers very poor overdrive performance since it has very slow pixel response times, especially compared to VA panels in similarly priced 32" 4K VA panels like the BenQ EW3270 which is PWM/Flicker Free.
The Sony 43X750F offers both overshoot ghosting and PWM blur free overdrive, and fast pixel response times competitive with the fastest 60hz AHVA/IPS/PLS panels like the Acer XB321HK I tested in 2017, AOC AG271QG, and unlike almost all TV competitors, the Sony is free from PWM blur. The Sony still suffers from a bit of color streaking, but only slightly more so than the fastest 60hz TN panels like the BenQ Zowie RL2460.
Cyan Pixel Response Comparison
Title: Fast Portal Jumper
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:16:47 am
Samsung Input Lag (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4881/32328706268_14f8051a1c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RfM54o) DSC_0213 (https://flic.kr/p/RfM54o) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
When the Game mode and UHD Color settings are enabled the Samsung 43NU7100 has an 8ms (top screen Leo Bodnar measurement @1080p) delay. It's possible but unlikely that the Samsung has lower input lag at 4K since the 1080p delay is already extremely low, especially compared to most TV competitors which get as low as have 11-15ms delays when their Game or PC modes are enabled. The fastest monitors have 2-4ms delays, or are two to four times faster, however, the Samsung still impresses since it has slightly more than three times less input lag than the Sony which has a 27ms delay.
Title: Semi-Agile Window Smasher
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:17:03 am
Sony Input Lag (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1963/31660003018_f3e607bd4f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QeFMT1) DSC_0146 (https://flic.kr/p/QeFMT1) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
When the Game and Graphics modes are enabled the Sony 43X750F has a 27ms (top screen Leo Bodnar measurement @1080p) delay. It's possible that the Sony has lower input lag at 4K, but highly unlikely. The fastest TV's have 11-15ms delays when their Game or PC modes are enabled, but very, very few aside from OLED are PWM/Flicker Free like the Sony 43X750F. The Sony 43X720E Rtings tested is a bit faster with a 20ms delay (https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x720e#comparison_1799), but it has less accurate color presets, as does the X750F's predecessor which has higher input lag with 34ms (http://=https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800e#comparison_1799the Sony 43X800E). Most monitors have <4ms delays.
Title: In Need Of Repair
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:17:18 am
Samsung Preset Color Accuracy (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4917/46150238122_b61e3b5831_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dj92WJ) DSC_0224 (https://flic.kr/p/2dj92WJ) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4808/44761915660_f617fc0e93_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bcsw3y) Samsung 43NU7100 Preset Chart (https://flic.kr/p/2bcsw3y) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
As mentioned in the Samsung Menu & Set-Up (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg473/#msg473) section of the review, the Samsung looks awful unless the UHD Color setting is enabled since doing so enabled YCbCr 4:4:4 support, and corrects the unexplainably weird and skewed preset gamma. Once the UHD Color setting is enabled the gamma changes from very strange black crush inducing reversed S curve to a fairly linear line trying, but falling slightly short of the linear 2.2 target. Enabling UHD Color vastly improves the image quality, but the Samsung still suffers from a very strong blue tint since the Color Tone setting is preset to Cool. Also, when connected to my PC the maximum brightness was greatly limited until I enabled the Game mode which is also located in the sub menu in the the External Settings menu. Without both the Game and UHD Color settings enabled, the maximum brightness was limited to an extremely dim 90cdm/2 when the Warm 2 Color Tone setting was enabled.
The Samsung becomes very accurate once the Game Mode, UHD Color and Warm 2 color setting are enabled. The gamma is slightly too low, and a slight blue tint is still present, but these flaws are minor and to be expected from an affordable TV. The 43NU7100 offers excellent image quality for an affordable VA panel once the UHD Color, Game Mode (when connected to a PC) and Warm 2 color settings are selected.
Samsung HCFR Grey Scale
Samsung HCFR Gamma
Samsung RGB Levels
Samsung HCFR CIE Diagram
Title: A Nearly Grasped Donut
Post by: NCX on October 28, 2018, 03:17:54 am
Sony Preset Color Accuracy (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1948/45532478511_51198906dc_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cnxRwX) DSC_0076 (https://flic.kr/p/2cnxRwX) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4827/44067685790_4176ab33ea_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2a97pG3) Sony 43X750F Preset Chart (https://flic.kr/p/2a97pG3) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The Sony automatically detects the type of source (cable box, console or PC for example) and automatically switches to the correct mode (Game or Graphics) with lower input lag, when connecting to a console or PC. Unfortunately it only supports YCbCr 4:2:0, and not the full 4:4:4, which is required for blur and color blending free color and text. Fortunately the Sony is nearly perfect in terms of preset color accuracy overall, and in its price bracket or price tier. The Sony has nearly perfectly linear 2.2 gamma for the HDTV/REC 709 standard, and only very minor blue under-saturation and red over-saturation which do not prevent the Sony from displaying greys and whites neutrally, or without an obvious preset dominance. The Sony's main flaw is its miss-matched color gamut which can not fully cover the sRGB and HDTV/REC 709 color spaces since it slightly under and over-saturates some colors. The color space coverage offered by the Sony is on par with a budget (<200$) IPS/PLS panel, and should be perfect, however, the differences between the Sony and a display which lacks these flaws is nearly negligible. Also, unlike the Samsung 43NU7100, no Sony settings need to be changed to ensure the best preset color accuracy or image quality.
Sony HCFR Grey Scale
Sony HCFR Gamma
Sony RGB Levels
Sony HCFR CIE Diagram
Title: What?
Post by: NCX on November 14, 2018, 12:17:41 am
Samsung Un-Calibrated vs Calibrated Comparisons
These comparisons are of the Samsung's Game mode with UHD Color on, and the Default Cool 2 color temperature setting versus the monitor when calibrated in the Game Mode. The Samsung suffers from a very strong blue tint by default when both the Game Mode and UHD Color settings are turned on and off, and the blue over-saturation is strong enough to nearly hide the presence of green in some content. The preset gamma is also marginally too low out-of-the-box, but can be improved by setting the BT 1886 setting to -1.
Samsung 43UN7100 Un-Calibrated 1
Samsung 43UN7100 Calibrated 1
Samsung 43UN7100 Un-Calibrated 2
Samsung 43UN7100 Calibrated 2
Samsung 43UN7100 Un-Calibrated 3
Samsung 43UN7100 Calibrated 3
Samsung 43UN7100 Un-Calibrated 4
Samsung 43UN7100 Calibrated 4
Title: A Bargain Free Shop
Post by: NCX on November 14, 2018, 12:18:05 am
Sony Un-Calibrated vs Calibrated Comparisons
There's only slight measure-able and perceive-able difference between the Sony out-of-the-box and after calibration.
Sony 43X750F Un-Calibrated 1
Sony 43X750F Calibrated 1
Sony 43X750F Un-Calibrated 2
Sony 43X750F Calibrated 2
Sony 43X750F Un-Calibrated 3
Sony 43X750F Calibrated 3
Title: Similarly Flawed & Great
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:43:47 pm
Calibrated Image Quality (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4891/45300471665_86ef866501_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c23KYV) Samsung 43UN7100 vs Sony 43X750F CC (https://flic.kr/p/2c23KYV) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The sRGB color space coverage measurements come from dispcalgui's software calibration ICC profile verification which slightly decreased the Sony's accuracy versus my menu calibrations, so I did not use dispcalgui to calibrate the Samsung, especially since the process takes around two hours. Instead I included the HCFR HDTV/REC 709 CIE Diagram which shows the displays coverage of the the HDTV/REC 709 color space, which is very similar to the sRGB color space:
Color Gamut Coverage Comparison
Neither display can fully cover the HDTV/REC 709 or sRGB color space, and both suffer from over-saturation, however, the Sony's flaws are more severe since it is one of the most expensive 43" 4K display on the market. The Sony is more accurate and vibrant since it doesn't dim during dark scenes, and has more accurate and linear gamma than the Samsung which uses a VA panel with horizontal gamma shift and black crush. The Samsung has less accurate, vibrant and even color and shades, but it also has four times lower contrast or higher black depth, and significantly more glow when displaying black which ruined dark content viewing. As shown below, the displays look very similar after calibration when comparing photos not meant to highlight VA gamma shift and black depth/contrast differences:
Samsung 43NU7100: Family Photo
Sony 43X750F: Family Photo
Samsung 43NU7100: Ascendant Realm
Sony 43X750F: Ascendant Realm
AHVA/IPS/PLS VS VA Gamma Shift:
AOC AG271QG (AHVA) Gamma Shift
Samsung 43NU7100 (A-MVA) Gamma Shift
Notice how much darker the center of the VA panel is compared to the AHVA panel, and how much lighter the sides are. VA panels appear to have a dark iris in the center, which fades when viewed off angle horizontally, which also can result in detail which was obscured from viewed from head on becoming visible.
Title: Looking For Improvements
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:44:00 pm
Samsung Settings (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4816/32328718148_343930dbb6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RfM8Ad) DSC_0225 (https://flic.kr/p/RfM8Ad) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
Check the Menu & Set-Up (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg473/#msg473) section of the review to see photos of the menu with these settings if unsure of where to find them.
Backlight: 30 Contrast: 47 Color Tone: Warm 2 BT 1886: -1 2 Point White Balance: R-Gain: 5 G-Gain: -2 B-Gain -6 R-Offset -3 G-Offset: -2 B-Offset: -3
Title: Nothing To Fix
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:44:09 pm
Sony Settings (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1927/45481852252_da813cf8f5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ci5o7q) DSC_0129 (https://flic.kr/p/2ci5o7q) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
Check the Menu & Set-Up section (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg474/#msg474) of the review to see photos of the menu with these settings if unsure of where to find them.
Back-light: 17
Red Gain: -5 Green Gain: -3 Blue Gain: -5 Red Bias: -1 Green Bias: -2 Blue Bias: -3
Title: Darker Darkness
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:44:18 pm
Samsung Perceived Black Depth (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4876/32328115588_0f56418b36_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RfJ3tf) Samsung 43UN7100 D2 Pyramid (https://flic.kr/p/RfJ3tf) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The perceived black depth offered by the Samsung is vastly superior to the Sony since the Samsung has a 4000:1 contrast ratio, lighter matte grey bezel, and my unit did not suffer from obvious back-light bleed or glow. However, the Samsung automatically lowers the brightness in dark scenes, which is very noticeable when switching quickly between bright and dark content such as the game screen shots I use of The Order 1886. The fast brightness change can't be disabled, and the lower brightness reduces the ability to see all the details of some dark content. The auto-lowering brightness and VA panel black crush reduces the ability to see details in dark scenes slightly, but the automatic dimming was only noticeable when switching between photos or screen shots of dark content, and not when viewing non-static content such as a game, movie, or TV show.
Here's the same Destiny 2 Pyramid ship screen on shot on the Samsung, but this time with the lights off while the top photo is with my bias lights on:
Destiny Trials Of Osiris armor:
Title: Brighter Darkness
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:44:27 pm
Sony Perceived Black Depth (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4898/45160536784_5f3c753515_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bNFydy) DSC_0122 (https://flic.kr/p/2bNFydy) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The Sony has poor perceived black depth due to its glossy coating, inner black bezel, and back-light and glow in the top corners which only became invisible from a 5.5ft viewing distance which is ridiculous for a 43" display (3-4ft expected glow free distance for a 43" IPS). The perceived black depth is poor even when bias lighting (lights placed behind the display) is used, which was surprising since the panel in the Crossover 434K with 600:1 contrast which I reviewed in 2015 (https://web.archive.org/web/20170721093856/http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/monitor-reviews-discussion/15899-crossover-434k-review-semi-glossy-8-bit-frc-4k-lg-ah-ips-2.html#post1393350) had a better semi-glossy coating, and was glow free when viewed from 3ft away. Here's the Destiny 2 Pyramid ship screen on shot on the Sony, but this time with the lights off while the top photo is with my bias lights on:
Destiny Trials Of Osiris armor:
Title: Seeing Darkness
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:44:36 pm
Back-Light Bleed (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4605/39043882694_073ef27fcb_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22ub74h) The Order 1886 Statue Reference (https://flic.kr/p/22ub74h) by Dr NCX (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
My Qnix UHD32R (almost-glossy or low haze coated 32" 4K AUO AHVA panel) has a 800:1 contrast ratio after calibration and far more back-light bleed than the Sony, which is very obvious when the lights are off. My The Order 1886 Lights Off 15s album (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/albums/72157693294344984) contains photos of many displays ranging from 130-1200$ US MSRP.
Qnix UHD32R with 808:1 contrast after calibration:
Qnix UHD3216R with 1200:1 contrast after calibration:
Samsung F2380MX with 3,300:1 contrast after calibration:
The Samsung F2380MX uses a C-PVA panel, which is the first type of CCFL back-lit VA panel to achieve more than 3,000:1 contrast without local dimming, but have the slowest pixel response times.
Samsung 43UN7100 with 3,700:1 contrast after calibration:
Keep in mind that the 43UN7100 reduces the brightness automatically in dark scenes, or has a built in dynamic contrast feature which can't be disabled.
Sony 43X750F with 886:1 contrast after calibration:
When the lights are off both the Samsung and Sony clearly have higher contrast or lower black depth and far less back-light bleed than the Qnix. However, when both my bias and ceiling lights are on the Qnix UHD3216R is the best thanks to the 1200:1 contrast and lack of gamma shift and obvious back-light bleed. The Qnix UHD32R is the second best since it has a perceived black depth increasing silver bezel, and a superior glossy coating variant which is less reflective and looks less washed out under bright lighting. The Samsung VA panels horizontal gamma shift causes the sides of the panel to be washed out and blue-ish, and can't show as much detail as the Qnix AHVA and Sony IPS panels.
Title: Re: Samsung 43NU7100 & Sony 43X750F Review x2: Semi-Glossy 4K VA & IPS
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:45:46 pm
Samsung VA Glow (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1972/45337385645_3a1d9ed4ff_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2c5iXdR) Samsung 43NU7100 TO 1886 BL (https://flic.kr/p/2c5iXdR) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
VA panels suffer from more off-angle color-contrast loss than AHVA/IPS/PLS, which is quite obvious in the below photo since the dark greys, browns and blacks from the above photo look blue-ish, light and washed out off angle. This color-shift or off angle loss is also quite obvious when sitting too close to VA panels, and when looking at VA panels slightly off-center horizontally. I put the Samsung on shoe boxes to raise it, and sat around 3.5-4ft away to achieve the viewing angle sweet spot.
Samsung 43NU7100 Off Angle Glow
Title: Re: Samsung 43NU7100 & Sony 43X750F Review x2: Semi-Glossy 4K VA & IPS
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:46:00 pm
Sony IPS Glow (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1955/44618456145_eddd02b172_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aYMfwD) DSC_0036 (https://flic.kr/p/2aYMfwD) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
Sony 43X750F: The Order 1886 Furnace Lights Off
The Sony suffers from obvious glow in both top corners which only became non-obvious when I sat 5.5ft away. Also, because of the inner black bezel and coating, black always looked a bit greyish in dark scenes, even though the Sony has >200:1 higher contrast than the last 43" IPS I tested the Crossover 434K, and my Qnix UHD32R which uses an AHVA panel, which is AUO's version of IPS, and only has a 700:1 contrast, but has a silver bezel and silver tape under the bezel which I put on to hide its inner black bezel. I did not take any off-angle photos of the Sony since the top corners of the panel suffered from such obvious glow even when sitting directly in front of the Sony. Refer to the Sony Perceived Black Depth (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/monitor-reviews-by-ncx/sony-43x750f-review-semi-glossy-4k-ips-tv/msg527/#msg527) section of the review for photos of the glow.
Title: Re: Samsung 43NU7100 & Sony 43X750F Review x2: Semi-Glossy 4K VA & IPS
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:46:12 pm
Samsung Viewing Angles (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4804/44383671950_465ec9389a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aC2Vnh) DSC_0381 (https://flic.kr/p/2aC2Vnh) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
VA panels have significantly worse off axis viewing angles than AHVA/IPS/PLS except when viewing dark content from above, though they're only slightly better. The vertical viewing angles of AHVA/IPS/PLS are very poor when viewed from above or while looking down at them since they suffer from obvious contrast loss or glow (black looks grey-ish or white), and the same is true of VA panels, but their top-down viewing angles are more forgiving, and because they have higher contrast (>2,000:1 usually), white glow is less obvious. I had to put the Samsung on shoe boxes to avoid seeing obvious glow and contrast loss in the bottom part of the panel, especially when viewing full-screen content. The Sony did not need to be raised, but always suffered from obvious glow in the top corners unless viewed from over 5ft away. Once raised, the Samsung looked great for a VA panel when viewed from more than 3.5ft away as long as I sat in the center and did not lean slightly off angle.
Samsung 43UN7100: Off Angle View
Title: Re: Samsung 43NU7100 & Sony 43X750F Review x2: Semi-Glossy 4K VA & IPS
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:46:23 pm
Sony Viewing Angles (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1958/43715115780_8026937758_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29AXoUL) DSC_0155 (https://flic.kr/p/29AXoUL) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The Sony uses an IPS panel with very wide viewing angles which allow multiple people to gather around, or view from different positions (at the ends) of a couch without suffering from obvious contrast or vibrancy loss. The vertical viewing angles of AHVA/IPS/PLS are very poor when viewed from above or while looking down at them since they suffer from obvious contrast loss or glow (black looks grey-ish or white), and the same is true of VA panels, but their top-down viewing angles are more forgiving, and because they have higher contrast (>2,000:1 usually), white glow is less obvious. I had to put the Samsung on shoe boxes to avoid seeing obvious glow and contrast loss in the bottom part of the panel, especially when viewing full-screen content. The Sony did not need to be raised, but always suffered from obvious glow in the top corners unless viewed from over 5ft away. Once raised, the Samsung looked great for a VA panel when viewed from more than 3.5ft away as long as I sat in the center and did not lean slightly off angle.
Title: Re: Samsung 43NU7100 & Sony 43X750F Review x2: Semi-Glossy 4K VA & IPS
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:46:33 pm
Samsung + Playstation 3 & 4 & Pro (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4831/45288181795_6b62bb4d4e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bZXLCB) DSC_0229 (https://flic.kr/p/2bZXLCB) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The Samsung scales 1280x720 and 1920x1080 without issue, and automatically detects what type (16-235 Limited vs 0-255 Full) of signal it is being sent, and displays both correctly automatically. This does not exempt the PS3 from needing to have its RGB Range setting set to Full to prevent the image quality from being washed out.
PS3: PS4 & PS4 Pro:
Title: Re: Samsung 43NU7100 & Sony 43X750F Review x2: Semi-Glossy 4K VA & IPS
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:46:40 pm
Sony + Playstation 3 & 4 & Pro (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1966/31660004428_35a2d78987_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QeFNij) DSC_0144 (https://flic.kr/p/QeFNij) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The Sony scales 1280x720 and 1920x1080 without issue, and automatically detects what type (16-235 Limited vs 0-255 Full) of signal it is being sent, and displays both correctly automatically. This does not exempt the PS3 from needing to have its RGB Range setting set to Full to prevent the image quality from being washed out.
PS3: PS4 & PS4 Pro:
Title: Pyramid ≠ Xbox
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:46:49 pm
Samsung + Xbox 360 & Xbox One (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4835/46200835061_c3068242c4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2doBmDK) DSC_0215 (https://flic.kr/p/2doBmDK) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The Samsung scales 1280x720 and 1920x1080 without issue, and automatically detects what type (16-235 Limited vs 0-255 Full) of signal it is being sent, and displays both correctly automatically. This does not exempt the 360 from needing to have its color space setting set to YCbCr709 to prevent the image quality from being washed out.
Xbox 360:
Xbox One
The Samsung automatically detects what type (16-235 Limited vs 0-255 Full) of signal it is being sent, and displays both correctly automatically.
Title: Unrelated Photo
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:47:01 pm
Sony + Xbox 360 & Xbox One (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1928/43715081800_d0784fc531_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/29AXdNU) DSC_0075 (https://flic.kr/p/29AXdNU) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
The Sony scales 1280x720 and 1920x1080 without issue, and automatically detects what type (16-235 Limited vs 0-255 Full) of signal it is being sent, and displays both correctly automatically. This does not exempt the 360 from needing to have its color space setting set to YCbCr709 to prevent the image quality from being washed out.
Xbox 360:
Xbox One
The Sony automatically detects what type (16-235 Limited vs 0-255 Full) of signal it is being sent, and displays both correctly automatically.
Title: An Unwinable Fight Agaisnt The Darkness
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:47:09 pm
Samsung 43NU7100 Conclusion (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4823/32328704608_7199651c57_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RfM4yL) DSC_0216 (https://flic.kr/p/RfM4yL) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr +Positive -Negative
+Excellent build quality and dark grey matte bezel +YCbCr 4:4:4 support at 3840x2160 +4,000:1 native contrast +Very low input lag @8ms +Excellent budget tier image quality after a three setting changes +Excellent calibrated image quality for an affordable VA panel +Excellent screen uniformity (very minor DSE) and no back-light bleed -Low LED PWM Dimming or Flicker frequency ruins motion clarity and may cause health issues -Low maximum brightness and semi-glossy coating mandates use in low light -Requires multiple setting changes to enable full 4K color and resolution support -Very slow pixel response times resulting in obvious smearing of black, brown and grey colors and shades -Inability to fully cover HDTV/REC 709 and sRGB color spaces -Reduces brightness in dark scenes automatically -Low quality semi-glossy coating ? Lack of Free-Sync for AMD graphics cards and the Xbox One X
Despite being quite flawed, I vastly preferred the Samsung to the Sony since the Sony suffered from very obvious back-light bleed in the top corners, and its semi-glossy coating looked gross, even with my high end bias lighting (3x LIFX BR 30 lights). The Samsung is very flawed, especially since the UHD Color setting is hidden behind multiple menus, but it offers outstanding image quality for an affordable 43" 4K TV once the UHD Color and Warm 2 Color Tone settings are selected. Affordable is bolded and underlined in the previous sentence to ensure emphasis on my point since the Samsung is a mediocre VA panel panel viewing angle and motion clarity wise compared to monitors and mid-range VA panels like the PWM free Sony 43X800D from 2016 (https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x800d#comparison_559), and the Sony 49X900E (https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900e#comparison_1781) and Sony 49X900F (https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900f#comparison_1781) with 720hz PWM. The 43X800D from 2016 offered superior preset color accuracy and PWM free back-lighting which enables it to offer vastly superior motion clarity.
I can't recommend the Samsung since superior PWM/Flicker Free 32" 4K VA panels like the BenQ EW3270U and LG 32UD59 are available for a similar price. Refer to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 32" 4K AHVA/IPS/PLS (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/general-discussion/best-32'-4k-3840x2160-ahvaipspls-panels/) buying guide for more 32" 4K monitor alternatives.
Title: The Deal Shack Is Closed
Post by: NCX on November 30, 2018, 06:47:19 pm
Sony 43X750F Conclusion (https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1971/30591556487_92cbba89f8_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NBgHX6) DSC_0084 (https://flic.kr/p/NBgHX6) by Deepinthesky Teslastorm (https://www.flickr.com/photos/97364704@N08/), on Flickr
+Positive -Negative
+Excellent build quality and dark grey matte bezel +PWM/Flicker Free unlike 99% of the competition +Nearly perfect preset color accuracy +Good calibrated image quality +Balanced overdrive: very fast pixel response times with no overshoot ghosting +Excellent screen uniformity (very minor DSE) and no back-light bleed +Very wide viewing angles suitable for family viewing -Very obvious IPS glow in the top right corners if not viewed from 5.5ft away which is ridiculous -Semi-glossy coating variant washes out the display under bright lighting -Low maximum brightness and semi-glossy coating mandates use in low light -No YCbCr 4:4:4 support at 3840x2160 -28ms delay -Inability to fully cover HDTV/REC 709 and sRGB color spaces not acceptable for the price -Low contrast for a high end IPS panel (900:1 vs 1300:1) -Very expensive compared to the competition ? Lack of Free-Sync for AMD graphics cards and the Xbox One X
Superior 32" 4K AHVA panel using monitors like the BenQ PD3200U only cost a bit more than the Sony, and offer significantly better all-around performance. The BenQ is more accurate, has negligible input lag, less glow and a perceived black depth increasing matte grey bezel. The BenQ EW3270U and LG 32UD59 are also great VA panel using alternatives which are accurate and cost significantly less, but also use matte coatings like the PD3200U. The Qnix UHD32R uses a almost-glossy or low haze coating is also good, but not great since it's not as accurate as the BenQ PD3200U, has significantly worse build quality since it has a thin and flimsy casing, and suffers from obvious overshoot ghosting or slower pixel response times. Refer to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 32" 4K AHVA/IPS/PLS (http://bestmonitorsbyncx.createaforum.com/general-discussion/best-32'-4k-3840x2160-ahvaipspls-panels/) buying guide for more 32" 4K monitor alternatives.