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Work In Progress.  27x reviews.

Took time off for family and gaming.  I beat Dishonored, Dying Light 1 (for the 3rd time), Far Cry: Instincts Predator, Gears Of War 4, Gears of War5, Warhammer: Mechanicus and Warhammer Vermintide 2.


Acer Predator XB273GX
Added the Review by =DEAD= to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 240hz Monitors buying guides.

Matte 1920x1080 240hz AUO AHVA panel (M270HAN03. 0 marketed as IPS) with AMD Free-Sync (48-240hz range), Displayport, VRB (120, 144 and 240hz back-light strobing), 2x HDMI 2.0, 3.5mm Audio Out and  4x USB 3.0.  The XB273X has an 1150:1+ contrast ratio (100-530cdm/2 brightness range), can almost fully cover the SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) color spaces.  The XB273GX is very accurate, and also has an SRGB mode which gets rid of the preset 10% over-saturation of greens and yellows, but under-saturates color slightly versus the sRGB standard, and locks the brightness controls at a very high 215cdm/2.  The XB273GX's overdrive is preset to the Normal setting which offers very fast (for a non-TN panel) pixel response times with minimal to no overshoot, and is competitive with other brands top performers.

Acer XB273UG

Acer Predator xb273UG (2560x1440) [] https://4k-monitor.ru/reviews/obzor_acer_predator_xb273ugsbmiiprzx/


Alienware AW2521HF

Alienware AW2521HF (1920x1080) [] https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-alienware-aw2521hf/


Alienware AW2720HF

Alienware AW2720HF (1920x1080) [] https://www.ixbt.com/3dv/alienware-aw2720hf-review.html


AOC C27G2ZU

AOC C27G2ZU (2560x1440) [] https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/aoc-cq27g2u-cq27g2/ [] https://www.prad.de/testberichte/test-aoc-c27g2zu-240-hz-curved-gaming-monitor/



AOC Q27G2

AOC Q27G2 (2560x1440) [] http://playwares.com/dpreview/57847394

AOC Q27T1

AOC Q27T1 (2560x1440) [] https://www.lesnumeriques.com/moniteur-ecran-lcd/aoc-q27t1-p58281/test.html

Asus VG249Q2

Asus VG249Q (1920x1080) [] https://4k-monitor.ru/reviews/igray_dostupno_obzor_i_testirovanie_igrovogo_full_hd_ips_monitora_asus_tuf_gaming_vg249q/

us VG279QM

Asus VG279QM (1920x1080)

Asus XG27UQ

Asus XG27UQ (3840x2160) [] https://3dnews.ru/1012372/obzor-asus-rog-strix-xg279q/page-1.html [] https://www.ixbt.com/3dv/asus-rog-strix-xg27uq-review.html [] https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-rog-strix-xg279q/6

Asus XG279Q

Added the Review by =DEAD= and Review by Tom's Hardware  to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hz 1440p Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1440p AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guides

Fully adjust-able, matte, semi-wide gamut, 170hz, 2560x1440 IPS (probably AHVA) panel with AMD Free-Sync, ELMB (back-light strobing), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The XG279Q has 1100:1 contrast, and is quite accurate DCI-P3 color space coverage (91%; it over-saturates SDR color by over 25% and does not have a good sRGB mode) and colors aside from a minor blue tint (6900k measured color temperature) and slightly too low and downward-sloping gamma which averages around 2.09.  The XG279Q has negligible input lag, great 60hz and 144-170hz overdrive with fast pixel response times and minimal overshoot when the Overdrive 3 setting is used.

BenQ EW2780Q

BenQ EW2780Q (2560x1440) [] http://playwares.com/dpreview/57854123


BenQ PD2750Q

BenQ PD2705Q (2560x1440) [] http://playwares.com/dpreview/57816030


BenQ SW321C

Added the Review by PRAD to my

Fully adjust-able, matte, 3840x2160, wide gamut AUO AHVA panel with a perceived black depth increasing matte grey bezel, 16 Bit 3D LUT, BenQ Palette Master Element (hardware calibration), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, USB 3.1, 2, USB 3.0, and SD Card Reader and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The SW321C has a grainy matte coating, mediocre 600 (PRAD) to 680:1 (=DEAD=) contrast ratio, is preset to the Adobe RGB mode which is accurate, covers 94.8% of the aRGB mode, and over-saturates sRGB color by 42%.  The sRGB mode covers 97.6% of the sRGB mode which is very accurate.  The SW321C has a high 28.8ms delay, but fast pixel response times (for a 60hz non-TN panel) when the AMA On overdrive setting is used.



Dell U2520D

Dell U2520D (2560x1440) [] https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/ultrasharp-u2520d


Dell U2720Q

Dell U2720Q (3840x2160) [] https://4k-monitor.ru/reviews/zhizn_v_sovremennykh_realiyakh_obzor_i_testirovanie_4k_monitora_dell_ultrasharp_u2720q/

Eizo CS2740

Eizo CS2740 (4K) [] https://www.prad.de/testberichte/test-eizo-cs2740-4k-monitor-fuer-kreative-ueberzeugt/

Gigabyte G32QC

Gigabyte G32QC (2560x1440) [] https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-g32qc


LG 27GN750-B

LG 27GN750-B (1920x1080) [] https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gn750-b


MSI MAG272CQR

MSI MAG272CQR (2560x1440) [] https://www.lesnumeriques.com/moniteur-ecran-lcd/msi-optix-mag271cqr-p58003


MSI MAG321CURV
/test.html

MSI Optix MAG321CURV (2560x1440) [] https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/msi-optix-mag321curv


Philips 326M6VJRMB

Philips 326M6VJRMB (3840x2160) [] https://prohardver.hu/teszt/philips_momentum_monitor_326m6vjrmb/philips_momentum.html

Samsung Odyssey G7

Samsung Odyssey G7 (32" 2560x1440) [] https://www.techspot.com/review/2059-samsung-odyssey-g7/


ViewSonic XG270QC

ViewSonic XG270QC (2560x1440) [] https://www.prad.de/testberichte/test-viewsonic-xg270qc-gaming-monitor-macht-laune/

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Acer XF250Q Cbmiiprx

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 240-280hz Monitors buying guide.

Matte, fully-adjust-able, 1920x1080, 240hz IPS panel with AMD Free-Sync (48-240hz) Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The XF250Q has a 860:1 contrast ratio, very accurate color, but very low preset gamma (sub 1.9 average resulting in washed out colors and shades), and the XF250Q the can not fully cover the SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) color spaces like most 240hz TN panels.  Overall it has poor image quality for a TN panel due to the low gamma, low input lag but slow pixel response times, though PC Lab does not provide much much information about the overdrive so I can not properly compare it to competitors until more detailed reviews come out.


Acer XF252QX BMIIPRZX

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 240-280hz Monitors buying guide.

Matte 1920x1080 240hz AUO TN panel with a fully adjustable stand, VRB (back-light strobing), AMD Free-Sync (40-240hz), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0 (240hz), 4x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The Acer is fairly accurate but has high (2.5 average) gamma which causes black crush (loss of detail in dark scenes), though it can be reduced by setting the gamma to 1.8, but doing so sets the gamma slightly too low resulting in slightly washed out colors.  The XF252QX the can not fully cover the SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) color spaces like most 240hz TN panels.  The XF252Q has negligible or extreme low input lag and the fastest pixel response times out of all the monitors TFT Central tested (oscilloscope measurements) which means it is one of the fastest LCD panels in existence, however it does suffer from a tiny bit of overshoot, especially at 60hz.

The XF252Q PC Lab PL tested came with very low (sub 2.0) gamma,or washed out colors and shades, but came with similarly accurate preset colors (PC Lab PL unit is too blue but accurate like the unit TFT Central tested) and 1000:1 contrast.

Acer XF272U PBMIIPRZX

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hz 1440p Monitors buying guide.

Fully adjustable matte 144hz 2560x1440 TN panel with AMD Free-Sync (48-144hz), Disaplayport (144hz), 2x HDMI 2.0, 4x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The XF272U has an 876:1 contrast ratio, slightly too low but still very accurate preset gamma, an accurate (RGB levels) wide gamut TN panel with 91.5% DCI-P3 (HDR) color space coverage.  The Acer over-saturates SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) color by over 30%.  The XF272U has negligible input lag (measured with an oscilloscope), and PC Lab does not provide much information about the overdrive so I can not properly compare it to competitors until more detailed reviews come out.

Alienware AW2518HF

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 240-280hz Monitors buying guide.

Matte 1920x1080 240hz AUO TN panel with a fully adjustable stand, VRB (back-light strobing), AMD Free-Sync (40-240hz), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0 (240hz), 4x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The AW2518HF has accurate but too high gamma, accurate but too blue color, and like most 240hz TN panels can not fully cover the SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) color spaces (caps at 93%; over and under-saturates some colors).  Overall it has great image quality for a TN panel, low input lag and good overdrive, though PC Lab does not provide much information about the overdrive so I can not properly compare it to competitors until more detailed reviews come out.


Asus VG259Q

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hzhz 1080p Monitors buying guides.

Fully adjust-able, matte, 1920x1080, 165hz, TN panel with AMD Free-Sync, back-light strobing (ELMB), Displayport, Dual-Link DVI (120hz), HDMI 1.4, and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The VG248QG has negligible input lag and fast pixel response times, but very dull and washed out colors and shades (very low sub 1.9 gamma), de-saturated reds with a preset blue tint, and can not fully cover the SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) color spaces, but is typical for a 24" TN color space coverage wise.  Do not buy.


Asus VG279Q

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Asus VG259Q

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hzhz 1080p Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitorsbuying guides.

Fully adjust-able matte 1920x1080 144hz IPS panel with AMD Free-Sync (48-144hz), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The VG259Q has a 1437:1 contrast (30% higher than most AHVA/IPS/PLS) fully cover, as well as slightly over-saturates colors of the HDTV/REC 709 and sRGB (SDR) color spaces, and has accurate color presets overall (default=Game Visual MOBA; accurate preset RGB level measurements by PC Lab PL).  As expected, the Asus has very fast pixel response times with minimal overshoot, even when using the default overdrive (Trace Free 60) setting, and has negligible input lag (9.2ms measured with an oscilloscope by PC Lab PL); more overdrive information required to provide more detailed comparison versus competitors.

MSI G271

Added the Review by Plawywares to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hzhz 1080p Monitors buying guide.

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I'll update on the new monitor LG27UL550 once I've tested it out.

Interested to read your thoughts.  If the LG does ruin the MSI for you, you can always sell the MSI locally and buy a second AHVA/IPS/PLS, though I don't recommend doing so right away in case B & H Photo changes their mind and demands it back or cancels the refund.

Any thoughts on this?

Monitor Nerds is not a real review site.  They are an Amazon affiliate site which puts monitor specifications in paragraph form and makes the rest up.  VA text is less sharp than AHVA/IPS/PLS, it's not possible for VA to be easier on the eyes unless the AHVA/IPS/PLS has a very grainy matte coating, and usually only professionally oriented monitors do.

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I have my eyes on the Aoc C27G1 and the Samsung C27FG73. They apparently have a static contrast of ~3000:1, and besides that get they get great reviews in a lot of places, including this site.
But the thing is, I donīt really care about the 144hz these monitors offer. So if there are any HD monitors with similar or better quality/contrast/colours you know of, [perhaps even cheaper than the ones mentioned as of the missing refresh rate,] please let me know. Size also wouldīt be a problem, my previous one was 23".

The Samsung has vastly superior perceived contrast versus the AOC since the Samsung has a matte grey bezel versus the AOC's inner black bezel.  The smaller Samsung C24FG73 is equally as good as the 27".  The older, tested, 60hz + 1080p and non-curved 24" VA panels were significantly worse than the 27" models and I don't know of any newer tested 24-27" 60hz VA panels which are good.  Also, the newer 144hz Samsung panels also have fake bezel/frame-less bezels like the AOC monitors, so I'd definitely try out a C24FG73 before it gets replaced.

Really weird (or stupid xD ) idea-question: to achieve a "glossy" coating over a matte monitor, would something like the "Displex Scratch Remover" do anything good?

Someone made an Acer XB271HU glossy accidentally with scratch remover, but I have not seen this process repeated; there's no surefire way to make the fake bezel/frame-less panels glossy, and often those who try the distilled water + paper towel method end up removing the polarizer and ruining their display. 

I wouldn't expect HP to help me given that I bought this in early 2017.

No harm trying.

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Acer XV253QPbmiiprzx

Added the Review by =DEAD= to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 240-280hz Monitors buying guides.

Matte, fully-adjust-able, 1920x1080, 240hz IPS panel with AMD Free-Sync (48-240hz) Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, 4x USB 3.0 & 3.5mm Audio Out.  The Acer can fully cover the sRGB color space (with very minor over-saturation), has 1000-1100:1 contrast, is very accurate out-of-the-box aside from a very minor blue tine (6700k preset color temperature) and http://=https://4k-monitor.ru/reviews/i_zachem_teper_tn_film_obzor_i_testirovanie_igrovogo_240_gts_ips_monitora_acer_nitro_xv253qxbmiiprzx/#elem-6can be further improved by switching to the sRGB mode.  The Acer has very fast pixel response times with only minor overshoot when the default Normal OD setting is used at 240hz; =DEAD= does not test input lag or 60hz overdrive performance.

The Acer has a noticeably grain and sparkly matte coating when viewing light colors and whites.


Asus VG258QR

Added the Review by Tom's Hardware to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hzhz 1080p Monitors buying guides.

Fully adjust-able, matte, 1920x1080, 165hz, TN panel with AMD Free-Sync, back-light strobing (ELMB), Displayport, Dual-Link DVI (120hz), HDMI 1.4, and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The Asus has up to 960:1 contrast which is , accurate but slightly too high (2.35 average) preset gamma when using the default and most accurate Racing Mode, fairly accurate preset color (64900k in the default Racing Mode), but fails to fully cover the sRGB color space (94%) resulting in some color de-saturation.  The VG258QR has negligible input lag (2-3ms measured by Playwares with the SMT Tool) and the fast and balanced overdrive is controlled by the Trace Free setting and performs best when set to the Trace Free 80 setting at 165hz.

Playwares does not test for dark scene banding or test the 60hz overdrive so I can't recommend the VG258QR until this information is available.


Asus VG279QM

Added the Review by Ashun and Review by Global HD Russia to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 240-280hz Monitors buying guides.

Fully adjust-able, matte, 1920x1080, 280hz AHVA panel with back-light strobing (ELMB), Nvidia G-Sync (48-280hz), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The VG279QM is preset to the Racing Game Visual Mode which is very accurate and almost properly covers the sRGB color space, but the unit PC Lab PL came with slightly too low gamma (2.1-2.2) versus the nearly linear 2.2 gamma Playwares and TFT Central measuredThe VG279QM slightly over-saturates greens, oranges, reds and yellows by over 10% but is otherwise very accurate.  The VG279Q supports HDR, but it is best lest off since it lacks almost all of the features required for true HDR, especially in regards to the DCI-P3 color space coverage since it peaks around 80%.  The overdrive is preset to the Trace Free 60 setting which provides the best performance at 240hz whileTrace Free 80 speeds up the pixel response times without obvious overshoot at 280hz.  Trace Free 60 causes some obvious overshoot at 60hz; Trace Free 20 slows down the pixel response times and gets rid of most of the overshoot at 60hz, but is a bit slower than Trace Free 40 which TFT Central recommends. 

Les Numeriques measured (middle screen) a 9.7ms delay with the Leo Bodnar device at 60hz which is nearly as low as possible.

PC Lab PL measured a 27.5ms delay with a high speed camera.  27.5ms is very high for a gaming monitor.  This is likely a 60hz measurement since Ashun measured a 34ms delay at 60hz and a negligible 2ms at 280hz.


Asus VG289Q

Added the Review by Tom's Hardware to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 4-5K AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guide.

Fully adjust-able, matte, 3840x2160, 60hz IPS with 40-60hz AMD Free-Sync, Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The VG289Q has 1,000:1 contrast, is nearly perfectly accurate preset gamma and color wise, and covers 120% of the sRGB color space (it over-saturates some greens by 20%) with no under-saturation.  The preset Trace Free 60 overdrive setting provides fast and overshoot free pixel response times, and the VG289Q has negligible input lag.


ASUS XG27UQ

Added the Review by =DEAD=, It Hardware PL, NL Hardware and Review by Tom's Hardware to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 4-5K AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guide.

Full adjust-able, matte, wide-gamut (partial HDR support), 98hz (8 bit +FRC=10 bit with full 4:4:4 color) to 144hz (8 bit with 4:2:0 color) 3840x2160 AHVA panel with Nvidia G-Sync, 2x Displayport 1.4 (G-Sync), 2x HDMI 2.0, 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The XG27UQ has 950-1150:1 contrast, 92% DCI-P3 coverage out-of-the-box, and over-saturates SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) color, as well as has a red tint (5827-6078k color temperature; RGB measurements) unless set to the sRGB mode which is more accurate, and has high (200-220cdm/2), and locked brightness controls.  The XG27UQ's HDR mode is fairly accurate, but is also too red and lacks a true 10 bit signal and local dimming.  The XG27UQ has negligible input lag (2ms), and minimal overshoot, but slower than average pixel response times (5-12.6ms range versus 2-8ms) versus the fastest non-TN competitors.


BenQ EW2480U

Added the Review by Playwares to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors

Matte, 75hz, 1920x1080 IPS with AMD Free-Sync, 3x HDMI and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The EW2480 has 1400:1 contrast, is fairly accurate, but can not fully cover the sRGB color space like most budget oriented IPS panels.  The EW2480 has negligible input lag (4-6ms measured with the SMT Tool), and fast pixel response times for a non-TN panel when the default AMA High overdrive setting is used.


BenQ EW3280U

Added the Review by PC Monitors and Review by Tom's Hardware to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 32" 4K AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guide.

Matte, 3840x2160, wide gamut AHVA panel with partial HDR support, a remote, Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, USB-C.  The EW3280 offers accurate DCI-P3 color space coverage, but over-saturates the SDR color spaces by over 40% unless set to the REC 709 mode which has high (2.40) gamma and locks the color controls.  The EW3280U has good HDR accuracy but only partial support since it lacks local dimming, has low brightness and lacks a true 10 bit panel; the HDR mode is best left turned off.  The EW3280U has negligible input lag (2-3ms measured with the SMT Tool) and http://=https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/benq-ew3280u/#Responsivenessfast pixel response times for a 60hz non-TN panel when the default AMA High overdrive setting is used.


Gigabyte Aorus FI27Q

The FI27Q supports 4K up-scaling over HDMI which is a great feature for those who also console game since the PS4 Pro only supports 1080p and 4K.

Added the Review by PC Monitors and Review by Tom's Hardware to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hz 1440p Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1440p AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guides.

Fully adjust-able matte 2560x1440, 165hz wide gamut/HDR IPS panel with AMD Free-Sync, Displayport, 2x HDMI, 2x USB 2.0 and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The FI27Q over-saturates the color of SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) out of the box by over 30% since it has a wide gamut panel which tries to cover the DCI-P3 (HDR) color space, but it is very accurate preset gamma and color (previous 3x hyperlink source=PC Lab PL), especially when the Color Temperature setting is switched to User Define.  The sRGB emulation mode of the unit IT Hardware and Tom's Hardware tested are quite accurate while the FI27Q's sRGB mode Belgium Hardware tested significantly reduces the gamma and RGB level color accuracy (Standard versus sRGB), as well as looks washed out since the sRGB mode's gamma is too low.  The FI27Q has negligible input lag and less (2.7%) overshoot ghosting than the AD27Q (20%), but slower pixel response times resulting in more color streaking or ghosting.


LG 27GN750

Added the Review by TECHSPOT to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 240-280hz Monitors buying guides.

Fully adjust-able, matte, 1920x1080, 240hz IPS with AMD Free-Sync, Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0 and 2x USB 3.0.  The LG has low average gamma (2.05) resulting in some washed out colors and shades, and suffers from a slight pink tint, but covers 99% of the sRGB color space or does not suffer from color de-saturation (assuming correct gamma).  The 27GN750 has negligible input lag at both 60hz and 240hz, and has very fast pixel response times at both refresh rates which makes it great for both 60hz console and 240hz PC gaming when the Faster Response Time setting is used.


Philips 325M8

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Curved, matte, semi-wide gamut (123% sRGB mode or 25% over-saturation in the Gamer 2 mode for non-HDR content) 2560x1440 144hz VA panel with height adjustable stand, AMD Free-Sync (48-144hz), back-light strobing (MPRT), Displayport, 2x HDMI and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The 325M8 is very accurate when set to the Gamer 2 or sRGB mode which also provide remarkably high 6800:1 contrast, and very accurate colors, but with around 25% over-saturation of SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) since the 325M8 uses a semi-wide gamut panel.  The Philips has negligible input lag (4-5ms measured by Playwares with the SMT Tool), but below average pixel response times at 144hz even when the best (Fast) Smart Response overdrive setting is used.

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Samsung 24" FHD Monitor with Bezel-LESS Design - LS24R350FHNXZA


I can only vouch for the quality or lack of for the tested monitors in my Best Reviewed Flicker Free Buying Guides, or check the review sites linked to here.

When I try that PWM test page, I get a "sync failure" error at the bottom, which is telling me to move all my apps to my primary monitor.


Set the 25er to the primary monitor.  Desktop Right Click>Displays>Scroll down and click the Make This My Main Display Box.

Now my HP 25er is starting to fail. Losing focus? I don't know how to term it except that I can see very faintly horizontal lines. The backlight has only about 13,000 hours.

I tried changing the cable, and it looks the same in the BIOS as in the OS. Just has a subtle grainy look about it now.

Call or email HP and see if they will exchange it or take it for repair.

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You say the 25f is not quite as good as the 25er, or do you think it's the luck of the draw?

I think it has a new variant of the panel since a HP 25er tested last year was very similar to the 25f and worse than the 25er and es I tested in 2016.  The 25f is a good monitor though and on par with most of the best budget 1080p IPS/PLS.  The 25er and es from 2016 were exemplary at the time, especially for the price, but there are other affordable and outstanding panels like the Samsung S24E650PL and now discontinued Philips 257E7QDSB which also came out in 2016.

Also, should have a new HP low haze around this fall?

I hope so but I haven't seen any announcements for glossy-type monitors.

Is the HP 22xw that I have flicker free? I can't find any information on that.

Don't know but you can test for it with this after reading the instructions:

https://testufo.com/blurtrail

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My Solution

My potentially warranty voiding solution and surefire way to vastly improve the perceived black depth or contrast is to put non-stick, perceived black depth increasing tape on the inner black bezels.

I use this silver Scotch tape on a few fake border or frame-less monitors I own such as the Acer H257U, HP 24 Envy (HP 24 Envy with and without tape and HP 25er without and without tape) and 25er.  I've removed and re-taped a few monitors after a few months and not had issues with tape residue, however I must warn that adding tape to a monitor may void the warranty.


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Read these or watch the extended video versions to learn about proper display height (vastly reduce AHVA/IPS/PLS glow), and how to match the display brightness with the room light (how much display brightness to use versus room lighting brightness) first.

Display Brightness & Room Lighting: The Importance Of Light

IPS vs TN: Right & Wrong Ways To Use Or View; How To Vastly Reduce AHVA/IPS/PLS Glow


The majority of modern monitors come with what the manufacturers call bezel or frame-less panels which are not truly bezel-less or frame-less, and have a perceived black depth reducing inner black bezel on the top and sides, and sometimes all four edges of a display:







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So, I've decided to try a VA monitor as they seem the best regarded for eye comfort for office work. VA2452SM qualifies, but I'm still looking at other options.

VA panels have less sharp text than AHVA/IPS/PLS and there are zero ways a TN or VA panel can be easier on the eyes since almost all monitors, (including all monitors I recommend) are PWM/Flicker Free and have similarly light matte coatings now.  The VA248HE is untested so there's no way to know if it's better than the S24F350H.

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Regarding the eye care feature of blue light filtration, is there any benefit to this vs using a software "night light" blue light filter?

Low blue light is a scam unless the display is lit by RGB or GBR back-lighting (only found in wide gamut/professionally oriented monitors) since the rest are lit by yellow painted blue LED's.  The LBL settings and software change the colors internally (via menu settings) or digitally (software which decreases contrast and adds banding), and reduces color accuracy unless the monitor is too blue out of the box (7000k color temperature vs 6500k target).  Simply turn down the blue color setting on any monitor to achieve the same result.

High brightness in a dimly lit room is the main cause of eye strain.  Low frequency LED PWM Dimming/Non Flicker Free/Safe back-lighting is the second cause, but I don't recommend monitors with low frequency PWM and usually only TV's use low frequency PWM now.

My 25er has almost no backlight bleed or IPS glow. Do you know what panel the 25er uses? It's impressive in my opinion.

I'd have to check panelook again...and it doesn't really matter since LG is the only manufacturer of 25" 1080p IPS type panels.

Any thoughts on the Samsung LS24F350FHNXZA?

It's in my 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS buying guide and there are plenty of newer and better options including their own S24E650PL.

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I've been told (asking on blur busters forums) that using a 240Hz monitor set at 240Hz on Windows if you play at 60fps it will look the same than on a 60Hz monitor, and with VRR it will have several advantages like less lag. Not sure if worth it futureproof, and for games that can have higher fps.


Buying a  240hz + monitor for 60fps is a waste of money and TN panel text is arguably less sharp since the matte coating most use is granier than AHVA/IPS/PLS

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the XL2411P as seems to be popular and has strobing at 60hz, but lacks fron VRR.

The XL2411P has below average image quality even by TN panel standards, below average overdrive (choose between overshoot or slow pixel response times by TN panel standards) and I don't know if it suffers from dark scene banding. 60hz strobing also does not work well unless the frame rate stays locked at 60 so you'll need to use a frame-rate limiter or lag inducing V-Sync.


I plan to use it mainly for casual PS4 pro gaming usage, and am close to deciding on the MSI MAG321CURV. I'm aware of some of its flaws either to do with VA or specifically with the monitor, and have used the CQR version as a reference point as well

Still, I like its value for the price offers right now, and wanted to start off with a 32'' 4k VA, as I'm a fan of higher contrast/blacks, and also coming from using the last 50'' Plasma Samsung TV from 2012/13. (Switching to my room now so would prefer a monitor. Mostly medium-lit to dark-ish lighting)

Thank you for the kind comments.  The MSI has a fake-bezel/frame-less casing with a perceived black depth decreasing black bezel which partially negates the point of having a VA panel, especially when also dealing with the slower pixel response times and less sharp text vs AHVA/IPS/PLS, and warped curved image.  3$ silver tape can be put on the inner bezel, but the MSI, but there are better 32" 4K VA panels, though no monitor come close to the Samsung plasmas.  I highly recommend saving up for the BenQ PD3200U.  The PD3200U competes with VA panels perceived black depth wise since the PD has a perceived black depth increasing matte grey bezel and low glow AHVA panel.

I use this silver Scotch tape on a few fake border or frame-less monitors I own such as the HP 24 Envy (HP 24 Envy with and without tape and HP 25er without and without tape) and 25er.  I've removed and re-taped a few monitors after a few months and not had issues with residue, however I must warn that adding tape to a monitor may void the warranty.


If you really want a VA panel the BenQ EW3270U (review links) and LG 32UD59 review links both have better image quality than the MSI, proper bezels/cases and should be competitively priced against it.  The BenQ requires some research and set-up to use properly since it has a native DCI-P3 (wide gamut) panel, passable HDR and a good SDR mode.


Asus VA24EHE 23.8”

Any thoughts on this and how it compares against the HP 25er I have now?

My 25er has an almost glossy coating as you know, that I like.

Mainly interested in the Asus because it claims to be "eye care" and I'm wondering if it is easy on the eyes.

Eye-Care is PWM/Flicker Free/Safe back-lighting which the HP also has.  The VA is likely very similar and a replacement for the VZ249H, but there are no reviews.  If the HP is under warranty contact HP and ask for a replacement.  They may replace or repair it for free or a small charge if not under warranty.

Amazon as late is having difficulty keeping monitors in stock, and even when they had the HPs in, they only had a few of each model. How much longer are we expecting these COVID issues to plague us?

That's up to members of the Bilderberg and Council on Foreign Relations and top political party donors.


110 or 220 pixels per inch.
Also because Mac I'd like Thunderbolt port capability.
I have been looking at 27" or 34" ultra-wides but am not set on that form factor. 
Typically look for high refresh rate - though again - gaming is only occasional - and we are talking a Mac.
Budget is roughly $1000.

I don't cover ultra-wide monitors, 110 to 220 ppi is too vague, you're going to have to pay a big premium for Thunderbolt/USB-C and none of the non-ultra-wide + high resolution + refresh rate 4K monitors have it.  Either you need to scrap the high refresh rate or look at ultra-wide monitors if you want both features.  The 4K 98hz (full 10 bit + 4:4:4 color) Acer XV273K (review links) sells for under 1000$ (assuming US Dollar) but only has DP and HDMI.

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From comments, even 24" 1080p text is blurry on "gaming" monitors (or "new" as many claim older monitors are sharper, i wonder why), and not 100% sure but some of the "144hz IPS 1440p gaming" monitors, does not seem to have sharp text either (as i said not sure and maybe i'm mixing comments :D ).

Aperture Grill/Ashun, IBXT, PC Monitors, PRAD and Rtings all include photos of text and/or resolution scaling comparisons.  Modern 1080p AHVA/IPS/PLS text is as sharp as 1080p text can be, and sharper than VA panel text.  It's important to find out which monitors people are comparing the "less-sharp" gaming monitors to and if they have Windows Clear Type on or Off.  Most older monitors (especially TN and CCFL back-lit monitors) use a coating similar to that of the Acer KG271.

1440p Acer KG271 TN vs Asus VG279QM vs 1440p Asus VG27AQ vs 1440p ViewSonic XG270G

i will most likely play under 100fps on games (maybe even under 60fps, 30-50,

240hz+ monitors are a waste of money if not able to achieve 200fps+, especially if after sharper text.

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Thank you, thought it could  be something in-between because these "from side" reflections.

All 144-280hz AUO AHVA (advertised as IPS), Innolux IPS and LG IPS monitors are matte and use a nearly identical coating aside from the upcoming Eve monitors which are supposed to be 20% haze versus the rest which are 25%.

Wish there were more info about matte monitors apart of "light coating" or "grainy" to easily check the kind you want :D

These descriptions are accurate since only light and grainy matte coated AHVA/IPS/PLS monitors are made right now, and only a few high-end oriented Eizo and HP monitors come with a grainy matte coating now. 

is it me or monitors good for games usually have blurry text? (a lot of comments about this when looking for user opinions)


27" 1080p text...buy a 24-25" or higher resolution 27" monitor if 27" 1080p text isn't sharp enough.  I find 27" 1080p tolerable if viewed from 75cm/2.5ft away, but only for gaming and watching content since I've been using 2x 27" 1440p monitors since 2012.

there is a real problem with these high refresh +200 monitor when used with 60hz games? I highly doubt i can maintain +100 fps for many or any years... Why so difficult? :D

They're made for 200fps+ gaming...The high input lag is in-excuse-able, but only applies to 60hz or if Free-Sync is enabled and the frame-rate drops significantly under 100fps.

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