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I think the Asus VG248QE had a good review by you and it's currently 200$.
It's a 144Hz and can be adjusted + rotated vertically (I'm short on space).
It doesn't include G-Sync (VG248QG has it at 250), but I don't think it's necessary here.

The VG248QE uses LED PWM Dimming so I can't recommend it, the VG248QG is untested, and both use TN panels.  The excellent AOC 24G2U (tested by PC Monitors) is the only tested 24" 144hz IPS panel while the rest use TN or VA panels.  Based on PC Monitors review, I think the 24G2U is one of the best monitors under 1000$.

If a second 144hz monitor is a must I can only recommend the AOC 24G2U and best 144hz VA panels since the Acer XB241H is equal or superior to the newest tested 24" TN panels.

AOC I2490PXQU seemed ok for my needs?

The Samsung S24E650PL is significantly better, and so is the AOC 24G2U.

I'm curious about IPS, but I'd hate to see glow\bleed on my display.


All displays can suffer from back-light bleed and glow, and AHVA/IPS/PLS glow is a panel flaw with which can nearly be completely reduced by changing their display height and not viewing them same way as a TN panel:

IPS vs TN: Right & Wrong Ways To Use Or View; How To Vastly Reduce AHVA/IPS/PLS Glow & Increase The Perceived Black Depth

Back-light bleed can often be reduced to nearly imperceptible amount by not cranking the display brightness and placing the display at the correct height.  Also it's unrealistic to expect to get a completely back-light bleed free display for under 1000$, though it does happen.

Display Brightness & Room Lighting: The Importance Of Light



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« on: October 19, 2019, 12:18:37 pm »
AOC 24G2U

Added the Review by PC Monitors to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144hz 1080p Monitors buying guides.

Matte 1920x1080 144hz, 6 bit +FRC IPS (Panda LC238LF1F IGZO IPS) panel with a fully adjust-able stand, AMD Free-Sync, back-light strobing (MBR), Displayport (G-Sync compatible Free-Sync), 2x HDMI 1.4, 4x USB 3.0, and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The AOC is very accurate, has high contrast (1400-1500:1), negligible input lag (<4ms measured with the SMT Tool) and very well tuned overdrive when the Overdrive is set to Medium at 60hz and Strong at 144hz.

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I am looking to get a 27" 1440p 144hz monitor for both gaming and media creation. I game pretty much across the board and need to use programs like photoshop and rhino for work.

All TN panels (S2719DGF which can come with low preset gamma or washed out colors) are unsuitable for work which requires color accuracy since they suffer from vertically uneven colors and shades (gamma shift which results in washed out image quality), but there are multiple non-TN options in this price range.  If in the US the 330$ Acer XF270HU is the best option since the newer models in the price range are worse since they use Innolux IPS panels with more ghosting (slower pixel response times) versus the AHVA panel in the XF270HU.  More alternatives:

Best 144-165hz 1440p Monitors with Free-Sync

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The Samsung is about 198 USD while the AOC is 137 USD. The used Samsung one is 101 USD

I'm also considering the AOC I2490VXQ and BenQ GW2480. Which one is the best, the BenQ GW2480, 24v2Q or the I2490VXQ?

If the 100$ Samsung is the renewed and Prime backed model from Amazon I'd try it out since they have a 30 day no hassle return policy, though they did drop the price of a new unit to 164$.

The 242Q is the best since it has slightly better preset color accuracy (gamma) than the I2490VXQ.  The BenQ is the slowest of the three and doesn't offer superior performance in any category. 

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I was going to ask if a high contrast would be relevant to my needs but if high brightness increases BLB i guess i don't need higher brightness that much.

The higher the contrast the better, assuming the panel has uniform brightness and color distribution rather than just a high contrast center which is common.  AHVA/IPS/PLS with >1200:1 are very rare, and the same two panels may (less likely now, but used to be expected from pre 2012 panels) have up to a 40% contrast ratio variance.  Reduced glow and uniformity are superior to a high contrast panel with more glow and back-light bleed.

What rise + fall response time will avoid ghosting and is good for casual gaming?

Oscilloscope measurements and photos can prove all 60hz LCD panels, many CRT's and plasma's suffer from ghosting (color streaking for fast pixel response times and smearing for long pixel reaction times) or phosphor trailing (CRT and plasma) which must not be confused with sample and hold motion blur which both LCD and OLED suffer from, and is reduced by increasing the refresh rate (60 to 75 to 120hz, ect). 

Almost all AHVA/IPS/PLS panels are fast enough for the majority (which you may not be part of)...those who are not using a high refresh rate CRT or overshoot ghosting and PWM blur free TN.

Is 18,4 ms good enough on a 75Hz monitor? What about 14ms on a 60Hz?

I can't answer this for you, but can guess YES if you're not using a PWM blur free TN without overshoot.

My monitor (Qnix QX2710) versus the Acer X27 whose response times you can look up here.  I also use an HP 24 Envy which is very similar to the AOC and significantly faster than my Qnix.  I always notice the response time flaws, including flaws from the fastest TN panels, but I can't stand using them, which is a common opinion from AHVA/IPS/PLS panel owners.

Is it a bad idea to use the AOC 24V2Q for gaming or is it good enough?

PC Lab PL measured 7.5ms for the TN panel in the BenQ GL2580...which is a Far Cry off the claimed 1ms response time.  I think the AOC is more than good enough, but if you want a significantly faster monitor buy a TN.

Should i get a second hand Samsung S24E650PL?

How much is a new Samsung versus AOC?  If PC gaming with a Free-Sync compatible graphics card the AOC is probably the better choice since it supports Free-Sync and 75hz, though the Samsung can probably overclocked to 71-75hz, has a height adjust-able stand, better image quality and is faster.  I can not recommend second hand monitors without knowing where they come from and what condition they come in.

What's SDR?

Standard Dynamic Range (HDTV/REC 709 and sRGB color space which are extremely similar and the color spaces most content uses) versus High Dynamic Range/HDR which is a form of wide gamut color quite different to the Adobe RGB standard.

fix the high response time on the AOC 24V2Q with the overdrive options?

Don't know, and the AOC response times are normal for AHVA/IPS/PLS.  Compare Playwares AOC measurements to a few others to be sure.

Are videos/movies/shows affected by ghosting, inverse ghosting, overshoot and other similar issues?

Everything is affected....but will most people notice?  No, especially in the case of the AOC as long as the overdrive is not set to the highest overshoot ghosting inducing setting.

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it seems like there aren't good ones at this price point.

There are very few good panels of any type available for under 175$ US, and 60hz VA panels have significantly slower pixel response times than AHVA/IPS/PLS.  Also low blue light is a scam without RGB back-lighting which only high end monitors.  Turn down the Green setting to make any display more yellow and "Low Blue Light".

the only issues i have with it are IPS glow/BLB

All displays can suffer from back-light bleed, and AHVA/IPS/PLS glow is a panel flaw with which can nearly be completely reduced by changing their display height and not viewing them same way as a TN panel:

IPS vs TN: Right & Wrong Ways To Use Or View; How To Vastly Reduce AHVA/IPS/PLS Glow & Increase The Perceived Black Depth[/url]

Back-light bleed can often be reduced to nearly imperceptible amount by not cranking the display brightness and placing the display at the correct height.  Also it's unrealistic to expect to get a completely back-light bleed free display for under 1000$, though it does happen.

Display Brightness & Room Lighting: The Importance Of Light

that it's actual response time isn't 5ms as advertised

All manufacturer provided response times are fake and usually around 50% faster/lower than the true measured average pixel response time.  Compare the AOC measurements to a few other 60hz AHVA/IPS/PLS panels tested by the same reviewer and see that they're very similar.

The former lists it as 8ms by default and it can get to 6-7ms with the recommended overdrive settings, the latter lists it as 18,4 ms!!! Are the results from the second link correct?

PC Lab PL (rise + fall response time for high total) and Playwares are using different testing methods, so only compare measurements by the same reviewer.  Also consider spending more on the Samsung S24E650PL since it is a bit faster and offers top tier SDR (HDTV/REC 709) image quality comparable to vastly more expensive displays (full SDR color space coverage and preset gamma and RGB level accuracy), and is a few ms (14ms vs 18ms)  faster than the AOC, though the AOC supports 75hz.

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« on: September 21, 2019, 12:49:42 pm »
Asus XG32VQR

Added the Review by PROHARDVER to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hz 1440p Monitors monitor buying guide.

Matte, fully adjust-able 31.5 inch, 144hz, 2560x1440 resolution Samsung SVA panel with AMD Free-Sync (48-144hz range), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The XG32VQR is preset to the Racing mode which is washed out due to the low (1.9 average) preset gamma, but can be improved by switching it to the sRGB mode which is very accurate.


BenQ SW270C

Added the Review by Playwares and the Review by PRAD to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1440p AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guide.

The BenQ PV270 is a matte, fully adjustable 2560x1440 wide gamut IPS* panel with AQCOLOR, CalMAN Pantone hardware calibration, Displayport, 1x HDMI 1.4a, 1x HDMI 2.0, a monitor hood, an SD Card Reader, USB-C, 2x USB 3.0 and a 16 bit 3D Look Up Table.  The Adobe RGB, DCI-P3, M-Book and sRGB modes are all very accurate, and the sRGB mode provides from emulation with significant over and under-saturation.  The SW270C has fast pixel response times for a 60hz AHVA/IPS/PLS panel, and is free from obvious overshoot ghosting (AMA On), but has a 20ms  (measured by Playwares with the SMT Tool 2.0) or 31ms (measured by PRAD with an oscilloscope) delay or input lag.


LG 27GL650F-B

Added the Review by Rtings to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144hz 1080p Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 1080p 27" IPS/PLS Monitor buying guides.

The LG 27GLF650 uses a fully adjustable, matte, 144hz, 1920x1080 IPS panel with AMD Free-Sync, Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out,.  The 27GL650F has high contrast for a non-VA panel, is fairly accurate, but has skewed gamma which causes light colors and white to be too dark since the gamma in the 70-100% grey range exceeds 2.5.  The 27GL650F can not fully cover the sRGB color space, but comes close to doing so and offers extremely fast pixel response times and negligible input lag at 144hz.


MSI MAG271CQR

Added the Review by Playwares to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144hz 1440p Monitors

Matte, curved (1800R), semi-wide gamut, 2560x1440 144hz VA panel with a height adjustable stand, AMD Free-Sync, Displayport (48-144hz Free-Sync range), 2x HDMI 2.0 (48-120hz Free-Sync range) and 2x USB 3.0.  The MSI has skewed, but still fairly accurate preset gamma, a blue tint and over-saturates the color of SDR (HDTV/REC 709 & sRGB) content since it has a semi-wide gamut panel which is also not capable of fully covering the DCI-P3 (HDR) color space, though MSI only claims it can cover 90% (IT Hardware PL measured 85%).

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« on: September 14, 2019, 08:24:07 pm »
Acer XFA240

Added the Review by Tom's Hardware to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144hz 1080p Monitors buying guide.

Height adjust-able, matte, 1920x1080, 144hz AUO TN panel with 48-144hz AMD Free-Sync (G-Sync Compatible), Displayport, Dual-Link DVI , HDMI and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The Acer has negligible input lag and very fast pixel response times, as well as good preset color accuracy for a budget TN panel, though the gamma in the 30-90% gray range is a bit too low, as well non-linear.  Tom's Hardware does not test for dark scene banding so I can not highly rank the XFA240 until I know if it does or does not suffer from dark scene banding like many other TN panels.


Aopen 27HC1R

Added the Review by IBXT to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144hz 1080p Monitors buying guide.

Matte, curved (1800R), semi-wide gamut, 1920x1080 144hz VA panel with a height adjustable stand, AMD Free-Sync, Displayport (48-144hz Free-Sync range), Dual-Link DVI (120hz),  HDMI 2.0 (48-120hz Free-Sync range) and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The 27HC1R has low (1.97) average preset gamma resulting in washed out colors and shades, can not properly, but comes to fully covering the sRGB color space and is inaccurate.  It has a 7ms delay and fast pixel response times (for a VA panel) and minimal overshoot at 165hz.


Asus VG27AQ

Added the Review by TFT Central to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hz 1440p Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1440p AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guides.

The VG27AQ is a fully adjust-able, matte, 144hz (over-clocks to 165hz over Displayport), 2560x1440 AUO AHVA panel with AMD Free-Sync (48-165hz range), back-light strobing (ELMB) Displayport (over-clock-able to 165hz), 2x HDMI 2.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The VG27AQ has very accurate preset color accuracy (Racing Mode), and has very low or negligible input lag.  The VG27AQ needs to have the overdrive (Trace Free) reduced from 60 to 0 to get rid of excessive overshoot ghosting at 60hz and has slow pixel response times at 60hz, but performs well at 144, 155 and 165hz when the over drive (Trace Free) setting is kept to the default 60 setting.  TFT Central provides Trace Free 80 measurements which prove that the VG27AQ suffers from over 20ms of overshoot ghosting during many transitions which I find unacceptable which is why I recommend using Trace Free 60.


Gigabyte Aorus CV27F

Added the Measurements by Belgium Hardware to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144hz 1080p Monitors buying guide.

Curved, matte, 1920x1080 165hz and semi-wide gamut (127.2% sRGB or 27% sRGB over-saturation) VA panel with AMD Free-Sync (48-165hz range & G-Sync compatible), Displayport (144hz), 2x HDMI 2.0 (144hz), 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The Gigabute CV27F is fairly accurate (discounting the semi-wide gamut panel over-saturation), but has slightly too low preset gamma (less than 2.1 for 0-100% white) which results in greys and white being too light, or washed out.  The CV27F has an sRGB mode which is supposed to reduce the over-saturation of SDR (HDTV/REC 709 and sRGB content) color, but it under-saturates colors too much and locks the brightness controls.  Also, according to IBXT, the gamma can be improved to average around 2.23 by setting the Gamma to 4. The CV27F supports HDR, but lacks all of the features required to provide good performance, which is normal and to be expected from budget monitors.  IBXT measured the CV27F's overdrive performance or pixel response times and found that it has fast pixel response times for a VA panel, and low (<7.5ms) input lag. 


HP OMEN X 25f

Added the Review by Tom's Hardware to my Best Reviewed Flicker 240hz TN Panels buying guide.

Matte 1920x1080 240hz AUO TN panel with a fully adjustable stand, AMD Free-Sync (20-240hz range), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The HP has passable preset color accuracy, but the unit Rtings tested is too red, the unit Tom's Hardware Tested is too blue, and it has slightly to low preset gamma (2.1 average) resulting in it slightly washed out colors along with the slightly low sRGB color coverage, though it is normal for 240hz TN panels to not be ably to fully cover the sRGB color space.  The HP has negligible input lag as well as top tier overdrive with extremely fast pixel response times and almost zero overshoot when the Level 3 Response Time setting is selected.


LG 27GL850

Added the Review by PRAD and Review by TECHSPOT to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hz 1440p Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1440p AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guides.

Very accurate and fully adjustable matte 2560x1440 144hz wide gamut LG IPS with G-Sync compatible AMD Free-Sync (48-144hz over Displayport and 48-100hz over HDMI) Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0. RGB Lighting, 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out. The 27GL850 needs to be set to the sRGB mode (which is very accurate and has adjustable brightness but locked color controls) to prevent the wide gamut panel from over-saturating the color of non-HDR content.  The 27GL850 has negligible or very low input lag and very fast pixel response times with minimal overshoot, but the overdrive needs to be set from Normal to Fast at 144hz to provide the fastest pixel response times, and to Normal at 60hz to prevent obvious overshoot ghosting.


Philips 328E1CA

Added the Review by PC Monitors to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 32" 4K AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guide

Curved, matte, semi-wide gamut, 3840x2160 Samsung VA (TPV TPM315WR1-FP01.S) panel with AMD Free-Sync (40-60hz), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0, and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The Philips has negligible input lag (<4ms measured by the SMT Tool) and fast pixel response times for a 60hz VA panel (Smart Response Faster), but has a semi-wide gamut and sRGB mode free panel which over-saturates some colors, and has slightly too low preset gamma.


Philips 326E8 QHD

Review by Playwares

The 326E8 uses a glossy 2560x1440 75hz VA panel with AMD Free-Sync, Displayport, Dual-Link DVI, HDMI, VGA and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The 326E8 is very accurate, has negligible input lag and fast pixel response times for a VA panel when the Faster Smart Response (overdrive) setting is used.

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Viotek

Viotek GFT27DB

Review by Techspot

Matte 144hz 2560x1440 semi-wide gamut and 8 bit AUO TN panel with low preset gamma (2.04 average), a preset blue dominance and wide gamut color over-saturation of non-HDR content since the Viotek lacks an SDR color space (HDTV/REC 709 or sRGB) emulation mode.

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NCX Live Streams & Videos / Re: The Monitor Show
« on: September 03, 2019, 08:00:43 pm »
The Monitor Show 8:
Acer VG271Pb, VG271UP, XF252Q, XN253QX, HP X 25f, LG 27GL850, Philips 245C7Q, Samsung S24E650

https://youtu.be/wB5za2vDa-g

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ViewSonic

Viewsonic VP2468

Matte with height adjustable stand and USB ports. 

Review by Alexander Gryzhin (=DEAD=) and Review by PC Monitors.


Viewsonic VP2448

Matte with height adjustable stand and USB ports. 

Review by Les Numeriques


ViewSonic VP2458

Review by PRAD

Fully adjustable matte 1920x1080 LG AH-IPS with Displayport, HDMI, VGA and 2x USB 3.0.  The VP2458 can cover 96% of the sRGB color space out of the box as well as has very accurate preset colors and shades (impressive nearly linear 2.2 gamma).  The overdrive (Response Time setting in the menu) can be set to the Ultra Fast setting to enjoy faster pixel response times without over-shoot ghosting, but PRAD measured a 26.8ms signal delay with an oscilloscope which is very high since they usually measure less than 10ms for non-professionally oriented monitors.  The very high input lake prevents the VP2458 from being a good for 60hz gaming like most of its competitors, but it's still suitable for casual gaming and has great image quality for all uses.  Lastly, while not noted in the review by PRAD, I suspect that the VP2458 suffers from <1mm thick vertical black lines which span from top to bottom of the panel when viewing some light colors such as light blue and orange since the rest of the four sided fake bezel or frame-less LG AH-IPS panels do.

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« on: September 01, 2019, 01:22:07 pm »
AOC I2490VXQ

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors buying guide.

Matte, fully adjust-able 1920x1080 IPS with Displayport, HDMI, VGA and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The I2490VXQ is quite accurate, but like most 1080p IPS/PLS can not fully cover the sRGB color space, and has less accurate preset gamma than multiple 1080p competitors in the same price range.


AOC 24V2Q

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors buying guide.

Matte 1080p LG AH-IPS with AMD Free-Sync, 75hz, Displayport, HDMI and 3.5mm Audio Out..  The AOC suffers from high preset gamma (>2.53 average out of the box) which causes black crush (loss of detail with dark colors and shades, as well as color and shade dulling), but the gamma can be reduced by setting the Gamma to Mode to for 2.24 average gamma, and the monitor is quite accurate accurate overall.


BenQ GW2480T

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors buying guide.

Matte, fully adjustable 1920x1080 IPS with Displayport, HDMI, VGA and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The GW2480T is very accurate and offers excellent 60hz gaming performance (negligible input lag and fast pixel response times without obvious overshoot ghosting) for a 60hz non-TN panel, but can not fully cover the sRGB color space (typical for 24" 1080p IPS/PLS)..


Lenovo L24i-10

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors buying guide.

Matte 1920x1080 IPS with HDMI, VGA and 3.5mm Audio Out. The L24i-10 is very accurate and has negligible input lag, but has slow pixel response times and like most 21.5-25" IPS/PLS, it can not, but comes very close to fully covering the sRGB color space, though it only slightly under-saturates blues and greens by a few percent.


iiyama XUB2493HS-B1

Added the Review by PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors buying guide.

Fully adjustable matte 75hz 1920x1080 IPS with Displayport, HDMI, 2x 2W speakers, VGA, and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The iiyama can't fully cover the sRGB color space (<90% total coverage) and has low preset gamma resulting in washed out image quality.


LG 27GL850

Added the Review by Playwares to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hz 1440p Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1440p AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guides.

Very accurate and fully adjustable matte 2560x1440 144hz wide gamut LG IPS with G-Sync compatible AMD Free-Sync (48-144hz over Displayport and 48-100hz over HDMI) Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0. RGB Lighting, 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out. The 27GL850 needs to be set to the sRGB mode (which is very accurate and has adjustable brightness but locked color controls) to prevent the wide gamut panel from over-saturating the color of non-HDR content.  The 27GL850 has negligible or very low input lag and very fast pixel response times with minimal overshoot, but the overdrive needs to be set from Normal to Fast at 144hz to provide the fastest pixel response times, and to Normal at 60hz to prevent obvious overshoot ghosting.


Philips 241B8QJEB

Added the Review By PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors buying guide.

Matte, fully adjustable 1920x1080 IPS with Displayport, HDMI, 2x USB 2.0, VGA and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The 241B8QJEB is very accurate and offers excellent 60hz gaming performance (negligible input lag and fast pixel response times without obvious overshoot ghosting) for a 60hz non-TN panel, but like most 21.5-25" IPS/PLS, can not, but comes very close to fully covering the sRGB color space, though it only slightly under-saturates blues and greens by a few percent.


Philips 245C7QJSB

Added the Review by PC Lab PL  to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors buying guide.

Accurate, semi-wide gamut 1920x1080 PLS with Displayport, HDMI and VGA.  The 245C7 over-saturates SRGB color by 30%, and the unit Belgium Hardware tested came with significantly less accurate RGB level accuracy compared to the unit PC Lab PL tested.


Samsung S24E650PL

Added the Review By PC Lab PL to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 24-25" 1080p IPS/PLS Monitors buying guide

Matte, fully adjustable 1920x1080 Samsung PLS with Displayport, HDMI, 2x USB 2.0, 2x USB 3.0, VGA and 3.5mm Audio In & Out.  The S24E650PL is very accurate and offers excellent 60hz gaming performance (negligible input lag and fast pixel response times without obvious overshoot ghosting) for a 60hz non-TN panel, and unlike most 21.5-24" monitors, can fully cover the sRGB color space which allows it to provide top tier image quality comparable to high end monitors.

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« on: August 24, 2019, 02:15:57 pm »
Acer Nitro XB273K

Added the Review by Rtings to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 4-5K AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guide.

The Acer XB273K is a lower end version of the X27 and PG27UQ with slightly lower HDR color space coverage, lower maximum brightness (460cdm/2 vs 1000cdm/2), and inferior variable back-ligh dimming since the XB273K only has three dimming zones while the X27 and PG27UQ have 384 dimming zones.

The Acer XB273K has very accurate Standard mode preset  (SDR/sRGB & HDR color modes; color controls are locked when HDR is enabled), 144hz (compressed 4:2:2 YCbCr422 color signal called instead of 8 bit 4:4:4 YCbCr444 @120hz and 10 bit 4:4:4 YCbCr444 @98hz), 3840x2160 or 4K matte wide gamut AUO HAVA panel which can cover 87.65% of the DCI-P3 color space, provide 460cdmn/2 peak brightness, and can fully cover the sRGB color space to prevent over-saturation when the sRGB mode SDR Variable Back Light=On) settomg is selected.  It has a fully adjustable stand, a monitor hood, 1x Displayport, 1x HDMI 2.0, 4x USB 3.0, 3.5mm Audio Out and Nvidia G-Sync.

Reading the monitors included manual and/or PC Monitors and Tom's Hardware's review is necessary in order to properly understand how to use a wide gamut monitor, and fully make use of all its features such as the back-light dimming (SDR Variable Back Light), and sRGB mode (SDR Colors sRGB) to prevent wide gamut color over-saturation.


Gigabyte Aorus CV27F

Added the Review by IBXT to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144hz 1080p Monitors buying guide.

Curved, matte, 1920x1080 165hz and semi-wide gamut (127.2% sRGB or 27% sRGB over-saturation) VA panel with AMD Free-Sync (48-165hz range), Displayport (144hz), 2x HDMI 2.0 (144hz), 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The Gigabute CV27F is fairly accurate (discounting the semi-wide gamut panel over-saturation), but has slightly too low preset gamma (less than 2.1 for 0-100% white) which results in greys and white being too light, or washed out.  The CV27F has an sRGB mode which is supposed to reduce the over-saturation of SDR (HDTV/REC 709 and sRGB content) color, but it under-saturates colors too much and locks the brightness controls.  Also, according to IBXT, the gamma can be improved to average around 2.23 by setting the Gamma to 4. The CV27F supports HDR, but lacks all of the features required to provide good performance, which is normal and to be expected from budget monitors.  IBXT measured the CV27F's overdrive performance or pixel response times and found that it has fast pixel response times for a VA panel, and low (<7.5ms) input lag.


Gigabyte Aorus KD25F

Added the Review by Tom's Hardware to my Best Reviewed Flicker 240hz TN Panels buying guide.

Matte 1920x1080 240hz AUO TN panel with a fully adjustable stand, Aim Stablizer (back-light strobing), AMD Free-Sync (40-240hz), Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0 (240hz), 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The KD25F's Belgium Hardware and =DEAD= tested are very accurate (preset Standard mode), can cover >93.5 of the sRGB color space (but fails to fully cover it as well as both over and under-saturates some colors), has good contrast for a 240hz TN panel (850:1-930:1), and has very fast pixel response times with no (Balance overdrive setting) or minimal overshoot and slightly faster pixel response times (Speed overdrive setting), but has high input lag at 60hz (240hz not measured; 19.8ms top screen Leo Bodnar device measurement).  The KD25F Tom's Hardware tested came with low preset gamma which averages around 2.0 resulting in washed out colors and shades, or image quality.  Tom's Hardware improved the gamma by changing the Gamma Preset from 3 to 4.


LG 27GL850

Added the Review by Rtings and Review by TFT Central to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hz 1440p Monitors and Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 1440p AHVA/IPS/PLS buying guides.

Very accurate and fully adjustable matte 2560x1440 144hz wide gamut LG IPS with G-Sync compatible AMD Free-Sync (48-144hz over Displayport and 48-100hz over HDMI) Displayport, 2x HDMI 2.0. RGB Lighting, 2x USB 3.0 and 3.5mm Audio Out. The 27GL850 needs to be set to the sRGB mode (which is very accurate and has adjustable brightness but locked color controls) to prevent the wide gamut panel from over-saturating the color of non-HDR content.  The 27GL850 has negligible or very low input lag and very fast pixel response times with minimal overshoot, but the overdrive needs to be set from Normal to Fast at 144hz to provide the fastest pixel response times, and to Normal at 60hz to prevent obvious overshoot ghosting.


Philips 325M7

Added the Review by Playwares to my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 144-165hz 1440p Monitors

Curved, matte, semi-wide gamut (122% sRGB or 22% over-saturation of non-HDR content) 2560x1440 144hz VA panel with height adjustable stand, AMD Free-Sync (48-144hz), back-light strobing (MPRT), Displayport, HDMI 1.4, VGA and 3.5mm Audio Out.  The 325M7 is very accurate once to to the Gamer 2 mode, has above average contrast for a curved VA panel (3,000:1 versus 1800-2800:1), and has fast pixel response times and negligible input lag.  While not mentioned in the Playwares review, expect typical VA smearing of black, browns and greys due to VA panels slower pixel response times. The Response Time setting needs to be switched from the preset Off setting to Faster for the best performance and fastest pixel response times (Faster Smart Response or overdrive setting) without overshoot ghosting.

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Also , can you tell me if this is the same as the AcerVG271 ? https://www.amazon.in/Acer-Nitro-VG270P-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07VZ5TWVV . Same specs from what I can tell and costs around 290$ . Maybe just different regional names? And , if yes,  does the 27 inch being a  1080p bother ?

I can't since it has not been tested, but it looks the same.

does the 27 inch being a  1080p bother ?

I can't determine this for you.  I find 27" 1080p fine for 75cm/2.5ft+ viewing distances, but you may not.

Hi NCX do you think the Samsung C27FG73 have better colors than the asus VG279Q?

VA panels have less accurate, even and vibrant color than AHVA/IPS/PLS due to horizontal gamma shift.  The C27FG73 does over-saturate colors if not set to the sRGB mode and has higher contrast and a perceived black depth increasing grey bezel, but it can't display colors as accurately and evenly as the VG279Q.

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Looks worse when i've calibrated it. I've tried my best to grab some images of it here: https://imgur.com/a/gLJFfR9

Looks fine for a cheap panel.  If you want better uniformity you're going to have to forgo 144hz and buy a professionally oriented monitor (Eizo CG & CX, NEC P or Viewsonic VP series), or exchange it and hope to get lucky, besides, how often are you viewing full screen colors and shades, especially grey?

I am super confused which one is better. Since I am worrying if a cheap IPS panel is as good as the Va on the AOC . Can you give your opinion on this? My use will mostly be gaming , browsing and bit of content streaming.

There are no reviews for that Acer yet, so I can't determine if it is better or worse, but I would choose it over a curved VA panel any day since I neither like curved panels or VA panels for gaming.

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