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So far the only thing I dislike is the grainyness in bright scenes, which the VX did not have.

The peak brightness of both the VX and XG is around 300-350cdm/2 and will vary along with the brightness and color uniformity.  Anyway, you reminded me that I did not notice obvious grain on the VX which is pretty rare for TN panels aside from the S2719DGF.  Please check the XG240R for dark scene banding.

Yes, the VX does not have any grainyness, in fact it looks pretty damn sharp, thanks I suppose in part to the tighter pixel density. On the 240 the grid is definitely noticeable.
I would say my XG240R is definitely brighter than the VX I had, maybe in part due to the higher gamma I set.

Dark scene banding: On the VX it was barely noticeable (but I think I had black stabilizer on 40%).
Running the XG240R at 100 brightness and 2.4 gamma as well as black stabilizer on 8 and there is barely noticeable banding: very gradual and not very noticeable imo, nothing like the 2402 you pictured.


 Disabling black stabilizer removes most of it and lowering gamma to 2.8 as you recommended for color accuracy removes the banding entirely.
It may be worth noting that despite my relatively high brightness settings, I can still see the fully distinguished palette on http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/contrast.php.



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Qnix QX2710
A korean AHVA with low hz? Do you like it?

Anyway, I wasn't satisfied with the vx2458-mhd's brightness, so it will be returned.
I found an XG240R for "only" 220 from a private seller and I decided to get that instead.
So far the only thing I dislike is the grainyness in bright scenes, which the VX did not have.
The luminence consistency is an improvement however. My vx had noticeable coronas, this one looks clean.

As for the AOC G2590PX, besides overall decent test results, Adam from Pcmonitors said he generally does not recommend it due to the clearly noticeable interlace patterns.
I guess there is always a tradeoff.

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It could be a firmware bug, also, some of the View Modes such as the Text Mode locks the Response Time setting to the default Fast setting.  Were you viewing the same content (Test UFO Ghosting Test) when you noticed the lack of or presence of overshoot? 

When panning the camera at 60hz the grey circular Traveler in Destiny 2 (30 FPS on the PS4) suffers from a tiny bit of dark transparent overshoot ghosting when the sky is blue.  In game motion blur tends to increase overshoot ghosting.  Many monitors struggle when white and light blue; try dragging this screenshot from the Overwatch map Illios and pay attention to the giant statue and white clouds.  I have not done this yet but will be tomorrow, as well as more extensively looking for overdrive problems.

Yes, I was on 144hz Standard when viewing the UFO ghosting test. It was present when I had just unpacked the monitor, but not anymore a couple days later. It now looks nearly trailfree.
Tried the statue test, couldn't really make out any artifacts.
Scrolling thru text isn't very pleasant, that and the lack of gamma options would be the only major downsides for me.

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The vx2458-mhd arrived. Good colors out of the box, coming from my placeholder IPS.
However, unlike the prad.de review and you suggest, it cannot be run in Ultra Fast response time, as this will add very obvious white trailing, just like with the XG2402 on Fastest:


That leaves Advanced, which is still decent.





EDIT:

So after a couple days use, I swapped to the Ultra Fast setting again and the obvious white trailing is gone?
Is this normal behaviour? Does a monitor need some sort of warming up?

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I am upgrading from my XL2411T which got color lines after 5 years.

Hm, to be honest, now that you reassured me, I find myself struggling to justify double the price just for colors.
I now have a choice between
VX2458 for 170 new, xg2401 for ~140 3 months used, xg2402 190 like new

edit: just ordered the vx2458, lets see :)

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Assuming consistency (there's only one review) the VX2458 is significantly better, however, as stated in my buying guide I don't know if it suffers from dark scene banding.  The AOC G2590PX is the safest TN choice since it does not suffer from dark content banding and consistently comes with decent preset gamma. 

I just want to know if it has issues with ghosting? In the prad review they only talk about "brightness gradient" (Helligkeitsverlauf) and don't mention motion blur/ghosting. Is it the same thing?
The XG2402 for example has nearly 0 trailing as you may know. https://pcmonitors.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/XG2402-blur-144Hz.png

Currently I am only deciding between the vx2458-mhd or the 2401.

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Hi.
I am having real trouble deciding.
Which of the 24" 144hz TN monitors do you think has the best color/contrast in the <250 price segment?

I was about to buy the LG 24GM79G-B for 212.
It is height adjustable, the predecessor got excellent ratings at prad.de and it has a nice OSD with profile buttons.

Now after seeing your list I am not sure, should I rather choose the Viewsonic VX2458-mhd or the XG240R?
Or just get a VA? I heard people say in the 200 dollar range VA offers the most bang for buck, but I am a little afraid of noticeable ghosting.

Or better yet, bite the sour apple and get the Asus VG279Q for 360? The way you describe it seems like the nonplusultra at taht price point.


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