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Conclusion

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+Displayport, HDMI & USB-C ports
+Comes with cables for each video output as well as a VESA adapter
+AMD Free-Sync and native 75hz support
+Semi-Glossy coating is completely grain free and enhances clarity and color vibrancy
+Accurate and vibrant color presets
+99% sRGB/REC 709 color space coverage
+Excellent calibrated image quality and out-of-the-box image quality
+Accurate and neutral image quality without over-saturation and only marginal under-saturation
+Wide viewing angles
+Very minimal IPS glow when the brightness is not cranked in a dark room
+Overdrive provides fast pixel response times for a 60hz non-TN panel without strong overshoot (Level 2)
+Negligible input lag

-<1mm thick black vertical lines visible when viewing light blue and orange
-Minor preset blue and green dominance
-Gamma is slightly too high
-Semi-Glossy coating looks washed out under bright lighting
-Border-less casing has an inner black bezel which reduces the perceived black depth
-Overdrive settings are a bit too aggressive and cause overshoot ghosting


The 24 Envy is an excellent budget monitor for those who want good image quality and are not willing to pay significantly more for a 144hz monitor, or are like me and dislike both TN and VA panels.  Slightly more accurate matte 1080p IPS panels exist, including models like the Dell SE2717H which supports 75hz and AMD Free-Sync, but it along with other great matte IPS panels like the XUB2492HSU-B1, Eizo 2451 and Philips 257E7QDSB don't have a color vibrancy and clarity enhancing coating, though they all look better than the 24 Envy in brightly lit rooms.

The HP monitors are my favorite budget monitors of all time since they offer excellent all around performance at a low price, as well as calibrated image quality I find preferable to far more expensive gaming monitors like the matte Acer XB321HK which has equally flawed out-of-the-box color accuracy despite costing five times more.  I also prefer the HP monitors to all of the 144hz 1440p AHVA panel using G-Sync monitors which are marketed as IPS panels.  I tested three of four of, the three being the Acer XB271HU, Asus PG279Q and Viewsonic XG2703-GS.  The preset color accuracy of the HP monitors is superior to all of these since they're all too green, and are a bit washed out due to their low average gamma.  Even after calibration I still prefer the HP monitors since they have less glow than the 27" AUO AHVA panels, have color vibrancy and clarity enhancing matte coatings, and don't purposefully over-saturate green like the 27" 1440p AUO AHVA panels do.  The Acer 4K AUO AHVA panel using XB321HK offers better calibrated image quality than the HP monitors, as well as suffers from less glow, but its matte coating prevents it from being able to match the vibrancy and clarity of the HP monitors.



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Quote from: Bunsen
You mentioned in a Reddit comment that the iiyama XUB2492HSU-B1 is a superior U2417H clone. I searched through more of your comment history after that just to try to get some more insight on my situation, but can you please explain why this monitor is better than the Dell UltraSharp?

The iiyama is basically the same monitor which sells for less, and is equipped with multiple useful overdrive settings while the Dell only has 1 useful setting which suffers from a bit overshoot.  I won't recommend it though since imports can't be easily returned and exchanged, the warranty might not be honored, and because return shipping is expensive.   

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#4. Asus MX259H

I see no point in paying 25$ more for the Asus of the Philips unless you really like the design of the Asus. 

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#5. Asus VN248H/VN248Q. (I think these are the same except for the ports on them.) Apparently these are not flicker-free and should be eliminated. Can you confirm?

No.  The only information is for the original panel with PWM tested back in 2013, and there are multiple tested options to choose from.

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I can pick up the Dell UltraSharp new at $230 and possibly "used" (open box) at $200. The VP249H, however, is $135; the VZ249H is $155; and the MX259H is $175. Discounting the VN248-series Asus, are there any compelling reasons to spend more money on the Dell? Is it truly better than the other Asus choices in terms of build and/or color accuracy? My main goal is to have this monitor "forever" basically until it dies, so I'd like to get one of the best monitors out there with my desired specifications even if it costs more.

Buying a refurbished monitor with a 90 day warranty is not a good idea if longevity is a concern, and the U2417H costs more than the rest because it comes with a height adjustable stand (50$+ expense), USB ports and their superior warranty versus all competitors in the low-end monitor arena.  Theoretically (if it's as good as the cheaper Philips 257E7QDSB) the MX259H offers slightly better image quality than the 24" 1080p panels since the 25" panels are 8 bit and can more fully cover the sRGB color space.  I don't think the height adjustable stand the Dell comes with is tall enough to be useful since the top of AHVA/IPS/PLS needs to line up with the top of the viewers head to eliminate off angle vertical glow (more information).

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Quote from: MichaelDeets
1.) I couldn't notice anything whatsoever.

2.) There's a very slight green tint on the left half of the screen and a slight red tint on the right half, I might end up returning it and exchanging it for a new one.

(1) I'm glad you like it, especially after switching from a 240hz panel.   (2) Perhaps buy a second unit and return whichever is worse  since there's always the possibility of getting a worse replacement. 

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Support NCX, About NCX & Site Update Log / July 26th 2018
« on: July 27, 2018, 01:36:53 am »
Started Qnix UHD32R Review: 4K Glossy* AUO AHVA Panel with AMD Free-Sync 

Added review links for the iiyama XUB2395WSU and iiyama T2454MSC-B1AG .

Re-formatted and updated the design of my Best Reviewed Flicker Free 27" 4K+ and 32" 4K+ AHVA/IPS/PLS & VA Panel and 240hz Monitors Buying Guides.

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Monitor Reviews by NCX / Impure Gold
« on: July 27, 2018, 01:12:42 am »

Check out my Qnix UHD32R Photo Album with over 100 photos.

+Displayport, HDMI x4 and 3.5mm Audio Out
+Stable stand unlike some competing 32" 4K Korean monitors
+Silver casing increases perceived black depth
+40-60hz AMD Free-Sync
+Glossy* coating is completely grain free when sitting directly in front, and enhances clarity and color vibrancy
+Accurate and vibrant preset color accuracy
+99% sRGB/REC 709 color space coverage
+Excellent calibrated image quality
+Accurate and neutral image quality with only marginal over-saturation
+Wide viewing angles
+Very minimal AHVA glow when the brightness is not cranked in a dark room
+Negligible input lag

-Very thin panel casing barely supports the panel
-Front bezel and casing put pressure on the panel and causes back-light light bleed
-Multiple spots of obvious back-light bleed
-Inner black bezel reduces the perceived black depth
-Some grain visible when viewing glossy coating off angle horizontally
-Overdrive performance forces one to choose between slow (versus the best 60hz 32") pixel response or some obvious overshoot ghosting
-Lack of proper warranty
-Unable to be easily returned and exchanged

? Additional HDMI 2.0 for 3840x2160 @60hz preferable over 3x HDMI 1.4a

The Qnix UHD32R must be ordered from South Korea and lacks a proper warranty, or the ability to be easily returned and exchanged, however these flaws are reflected in the significantly lower price versus big brand 32" 4K AHVA/IPS/PLS panels.  The build quality is also poor since the monitor casing is very thin, barely supports the panel, as well as is designed in a way which puts pressure on the panel and causes back-light bleed.  The last major flaw is the overdrive performance which forces one to choose between slow pixel response times (Response Time Off) versus the best 60hz AHVA/IPS/PLS panels, which there are many of, or some obvious overshoot ghosting (Response Time On).  The UHD32R is even slow compared to Qnix's previous 32" 4K monitor, the UHD3216R I tested in 2016.  The last major flaw is the preset green dominance, which is worse than the dominance the UHD3216R suffered from but par for the course for most non-professionally oriented monitors, included far more expensive 32" 4K monitors such as the Acer XB321HK with Nvidia G-Sync.
 
Currently (Junly 27th 2018) UHD32R's only big brand glossy* competitor is the HP 32 Spectre I tested in 2015 which suffers from a similar preset green tint, lacks AMD Free-Sync, has much higher input lag (20ms vs  less than 3ms), as well as can not display Blu-Ray properly when played back through an external device such as the PS4.  The HP Spectre 32 is a better choice for casual gaming and media viewing if using a PC since it has much better build quality and can be easily returned and exchanged in most countries.

The UHD32R is a flawed monitor, but it is still a good monitor, as well as one of my favorites since it uses a clarity and vibrancy enhancing glossy* coated AHVA panel with low glow and no color dulling gamma shift.  The UHD32R also has negligible input lag and can display Blu-Ray properly which is very important to me since I play console games often, as well as use them (PS4 Pro & Xbox One S) for Blu-Ray and Netflix viewing to avoid PC related lag. While not up to par with the best AHVA/IPS/PLS panels, including 150$ panels, the overdrive performance is passable and adequate enough for my console gaming (I use an overclocked 96hz 1440p PLS panel for PC gaming). 

Matte 32" 4K AHVA/IPS/PLS panels such as the Acer XB321HK (better for PC gaming), BenQ PD3200U and LG 32UD99 are definitely better, but they cost more and can not match the vibrancy and clarity of a glossy panel which brings panels alive, and are worth sacrificing a bit of performance for.

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Monitor Reviews by NCX / The Right Set Up
« on: July 27, 2018, 01:10:44 am »
Settings & ICC Profile

DSC_0164 by Deepinthesky Teslastorm, on Flickr

Brightness 18
Color Settings>Color Temperature>User:
Red 49
Green 42
Blue 40
Picture Quality Settings>Response Time Off or On depending on preference

ICC Profile

Use Color Sustainer to ensure games use ICC profiles.


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Xbox 360 & Xbox One

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The Qnix scales 1280x720 and 1920x1080 without issue, and it does lack an HDMI Black Level setting which requires one to change the Xbox 360's Color Space setting to YCbCr709 to prevent the monitor from being washed out.

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Xbox One & Xbox One X

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Playstation 3 & 4

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The Qnix scales 1280x720 and 1920x1080 without issue, but it does lack an HDMI Black Level setting.  The Qnix automatically and correctly reads both the Limited and Full RGB signals sent out by the PS4 and PS4 Pro, but the PS3's RGB Range setting does need to be set to Full to prevent the monitor from being washed out.

PS3:
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Monitor Reviews by NCX / Neither Osiris Nor I See Glow
« on: July 27, 2018, 01:09:43 am »

When set at the right height (top lines up with the top of the viewers head or is higher) no white glow can be seen* when viewing dark content, which is a rarity for AHVA/IPS/PLS panels since even the slightest off angle head movements result in white glow in the bottom corners being obvious.  All five of the 32" 4K AHVA panels I tested suffered from far less glow than 99% of AHVA/IPS/PLS panels aside from high end professional oriented monitors (Eizo) with A-TW polarizers and the glow free 2560x1440 Samsung LTM270DL06 PLS panel in my Qnix QX2710.   

Low glow 32" AHVA panels are the best all around monitors for watching content since VA panels suffer from horizontal gamma shift and black crush in the center which is obvious when viewing them slightly off center.  The UHD32R's silver bezel further helps reducing glow and low contrast perception LCD black looks darker compared to silver and grey than it does versus pure black bezels.

*Seen with my monitor brightness (140cdm/2 display brightness) and room lighting (2600 lumen 6500k ceiling light).

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Monitor Reviews by NCX / Rare Glossy View
« on: July 27, 2018, 01:09:27 am »

The viewing angles are essentially as wide as an AHVA/IPS/PLS panel without an A-TW polarizer can be, and pose no issue for normal monitor use while slight horizontal and vertical head movements result in obvious discoloration on TN panels.  The vertical viewing angles for AHVA/IPS/PLS are very poor if looking down at  them or viewed from above like one must view a TN panel.  AHVA/IPS/PLS can be placed up high or looked up at which allows one to raise their monitor or recline in a chair or on a bed or couch while TN panels look extremely dark and un-viewable if viewed from the same position.  I sit around 2.5-30ft or 75-90cm away from the Qnix which sits on a box on my desk.  When on top of the box the top of the Qnix sits around 10cm above my head.

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Monitor Reviews by NCX / Perceived Anger
« on: July 27, 2018, 01:09:12 am »
Perceived Black Depth & Back-Light Bleed

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Some of the pictures look a bit different since I took the monitor apart and put silver tape under the main bezel to cover the inner black bezel.  Without the tape mod the perceived black depth and contrast of the UHD32R is excellent (when viewed correctly*), despite the low 700:1 contrast ratio.  The dark perceived black depth is a result of the glossy coating and silver bezel.  Even in the dark the silver bezel helps increase the perceived black depth and negate the need for very bright bias lighting, even though my unit suffers from obvious back-light bleed. 

*The top of AHVA/IPS/PLS panels need to line up or be higher than the top of the viewers eyes to avoid seeing glow, and sitting to close can also result in obvious glow in the bottom corners.  I sit around 2.5-30ft or 75-90cm away from the Qnix which sits on a box on my desk.  When on top of the box the top of the Qnix sits around 10cm above my head.  The photos are from my Back Light 25s Exposure album which contains photos of many more monitors.

Acer XB321HK AHVA Panel with 800:1 Contrast
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HP Spectre 32 AHVA Panel with 800:1 Contrast
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The HP Spectre 32 has low gamma averaging under 2.1 resulting in washed out colors.


Qnix UHD32R AHVA panel with 700:1 Contrast
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Qnix UHD32R Review: 4K Glossy* AUO AHVA Panel with AMD Free-Sync


Samsung 43NU7100 VA Panel with 3,700:1 Contrast
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Samsung UN43NU7100FXZC & Sony 43X750F Review x2: Semi-Glossy 4K VA & IPS

The Samsung reduces the brightness when displaying very dark content including this screen shot from the PS4 exclusive The Order 1886.  The sides of the Samsung look blue-ish, lighter and washed out since VA panels suffer from horizontal gamma shift which causes their gamma to decrease the further away from the center the image is.


Back-Light Bleed

Acer EB321HQ IPS (?) Panel with 900:1 Contrast
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Acer XB321HK AHVA Panel with 800:1 Contrast
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HP Spectre 32 AHVA Panel with 700:1 Contrast
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Qnix UHD32R AHVA Panel with 700:1 Contrast
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Calibrated Image Quality

DSC_0149 by Deepinthesky Teslastorm, on Flickr

Qnix UHD32R Calibrated Chart by Dr NCX, on Flickr

Once calibrated the UHD32R is one of the best looking monitors I've seen thanks to the low glow AHVA panel and glossy* coating, accuracy and white purity.  The UHD32R dies gave lower contrast than the BenQ BL3201PH and Qnid UHD3216R, but the UHD32R still looks better since it has a color vibrancy and clarity enhancing glossy* coating, and a perceived black depth increasing silver bezel.  The calibrated color accuracy is also excellent and without issue since the UHD32R can cover over 99% of the sRGB and REC 709 color spaces, and is free from gamma shift.

*Almost-Glossy or Low Haze coating.


Un-Calibrated Versus Calibrated Menu Correction Galler
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ICC Profile not activated in the calibrated photos since the UHD32R was connected to a PS4.  The ICC profile further improves the monitor, but only slightly.  The biggest difference comes from adjusting the blue and green controls

Qnix UHD32R D2 Un-Calibrated 1
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Qnix UHD32R D2 Calibrated 1
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Qnix UHD32R Un-Calibrated 2
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Qnix UHD32R Calibrated 2
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Monitor Reviews by NCX / Too Green
« on: July 27, 2018, 01:08:21 am »
Preset Color Accuracy

DSC_0110 by Deepinthesky Teslastorm, on Flickr

Qnix UHD32R Preset Chart by Dr NCX, on Flickr

Aside from being to green and yellow, the UHD32R offers great preset color accuracy suitable for all but professional color accuracy related work.  The UHD32R can fully cover the REC 709 & sRGB color space, has quite accurate preset *gamma, and is free from color dulling horizontal (VA) and vertical (TN) gamma shift.  Since I'm used to calibrated monitors I do not find the UHD32R to be beautiful since it's too green and yellow, and because I have encountered cheaper monitors which are more accurate out of the box, however, the Qnix comes in 2nd place out of the six 32" 4K AHVA panels I tested which are the Acer XB321HK, BenQ BL3201PH (1st), HP Spectre 32 and Qnix UHD3216R.  The BenQ BL3201PH has excellent preset color accuracy superior to the rest, and both Qnix monitors best the Acer and HP despite costing significantly less, though the Acer and HP do come with a 3 year warranty and can be easily returned and exchanged in most countries.   

*The gamma curve is a bet skewed and less linear than that of the BenQ, Prism and Qnix UHD3216R, but 0-30% white tracks close enough to 2.2 to prevent the UHD32R from looking washed out (sub 2.1 gamma), and prevent black crush (2.3+ gamma).  The preset gamma is closer to linear 2.2 for REC 709/HDTV than it is to an sRGB curve.  The Acer XB321HK's gamma causes some dark shades and colors to be washed out, and brighter colors and shades to be too dark.

HCFR Spectracal C6 HDR 2000 colorimeter measurements:

HCFR Grey Scale
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HCFR Gamma
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HCFR RGB Levels
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Unlocking the color controls by switching the Color Temperature setting to User in the color menu decreases the color accuracy a bit since doing so results in Blue being de-saturated and the green tint becoming slightly more pronounced.

HCFR CIE Diagram
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Monitor Reviews by NCX / Speed Through The Lasers
« on: July 27, 2018, 01:08:06 am »
Input Lag

DSC_0107 by Deepinthesky Teslastorm, on Flickr

Unlike its predecessor the UHD3216R, the UHD32R can be considered delay free or to have negligible input lag since it has a 2.5ms (top screen Leo Bodnar measurement) delay versus the UHD3216R's 30ms.

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